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Academic Casulaties for Auburn?

  • Very Interesting that Chizik would not state everyone is eligible when asked...... Let the specualtion begin on who is going to miss the game.....

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  • I believe when Auburn got to Arizona he stated everyone was accounted for and here. So that to me sounds like they are good to go.

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  • Here is the quote that Rob M had in the RG. Not sure if he is playing on words but the Coach never said all are eligible.

    Question: Just wondering if everyone made the trip and if everyone is eligible?

    Answer: Everybody is on the trip.

    dcduck

  • Here is the actual Q&A. After watching this and seing him purposefully not answer the question it made it seem almost obvious at leastone payer was left back or will be uneligibe.
    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2011/01/bcs_national_championship_aubu_3.html

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  • The Auburn AD stated yesterday that if players weren't eligible then they would not make the trip period. But Chizik definitely dodged the question, which makes you wonder.

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  • There's speculation that Auburn might be appealing some academic issues, thus noone is technically "not eligible"...yet.

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  • We, the fans, will be the last to know. Watch the spread and moneyline. Big money will be the first to know if something is affecting on the field results. It has been moving in the past week but without significant change (+1 pt and a few tens on the M.L.)

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  • A LOT of money is coming in on Oregon.

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  • DuckInTheDesert said...

    A LOT of money is coming in on Oregon.

    Interesting. Source?

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  • My "Friend" and most online sports books. I haven't yet looked at the Vegas books (where a lot of big money is played) though.

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  • Nick Fairly has already made his impact on this game. He has caused Chip to game plan around him. The game plan isn't going to change much whether he's in or not at this point.

    This post was edited by Quackwhore on 1/4/2011 at 7:32 PM

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  • Some Auburneers told me that, "Terrell Zachery is the only Auburn player of any consequence that has academic issues. A waiver is being sought, he may still play."

    (for what that's worth)

    More concretely, as for the money, I noticed the line changed from Oregon +3 -105 to Oregon +3 -120... that means vegas is trying to dissuade people from betting on Oregon, meaning lots of Oregon money has come in (for the non-degenerates on the board).

    This post was edited by sickmyduck on 1/4/2011 at 7:42 PM

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  • The money coming in on Oregon probably has more to due with the outcome of Pac 10 and SEC bowl games more than academic ineligibilities.

    DuckedUp

  • sickmyduck said...

    Some Auburneers told me that, "Terrell Zachery is the only Auburn player of any consequence that has academic issues. A waiver is being sought, he may still play."

    (for what that's worth)

    More concretely, as for the money, I noticed the line changed from Oregon +3 -105 to Oregon +3 -120... that means vegas is trying to dissuade people from betting on Oregon, meaning lots of Oregon money has come in (for the non-degenerates on the board).

    Thanks for the premeer Sick. I have never understood how the lines work and don't really think that will change in the future. The only thing I bet on is the lottery when it get big enough.

    If someone wants to write an explan of sports books, I for one would be very interested!!

    There's always another marathon.

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  • sickmyduck said...

    Some Auburneers told me that, "Terrell Zachery is the only Auburn player of any consequence that has academic issues. A waiver is being sought, he may still play."

    (for what that's worth)

    More concretely, as for the money, I noticed the line changed from Oregon +3 -105 to Oregon +3 -120... that means vegas is trying to dissuade people from betting on Oregon, meaning lots of Oregon money has come in (for the non-degenerates on the board).

    Vegas isn't necessarly trying to discourage people from betting on Oregon, but rather since more money is coming in on Oregon, they will get less return on there money. It's a way of them evening out the money field so they are able to still get their juice without losing money.

    As far as betting goes I have gotten really into it over the past 5 years and would be more than willing to answer anyones questions about it provided it is ok with Matt and Jhop.

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  • I think we're saying the same thing and disagreeing, which is no small feat.

    Vegas is trying to even out the money, no question. To do so they change the odds to entice the bettor to bet the under-represented side. You seem to be viewing the situation as static from the gamblers perspective. That is, you seem to think that if someone is betting Oregon, they are betting Oregon, regardless of what the sportsbook charges. I disagree. I think that as the line changes (either odds or spread) the majority of the new action comes from people reacting to that change.

    Thus, my statement that vegas is trying to discourage people from betting Oregon by offering worse odds.

    And as long as we're nitpicking, changing the line does not allow Vegas to get the vig without opening itself up to exposure. Rather, it's an attempt to get some fraction of the vig without opening itself up to exposure. They end up getting much less than the original 1/22 of the bets if they have to adjust the odds to even out the money on both sides.

    The other option is to move the line, leaving the odds at -110. In this case they still get their 1/22 vig, but open themselves up to the doomsday scenario of getting middled where they lose/tie the majority of their bets at both the old and new line. Since 3 is such a good number in football, Vegas will try their best not to come off this line, and rather just adjust the odds (at the expense of some fraction of their vig). If the line were originally 2.5, I'd guess it would have moved to 2 by now, rather than keeping the line and adjusting the odds. I guess that depends no the individual book and their level of risk tolerance, though.

    I'm sure nobody but me (and possibly you, Desert) care about any of this, but I felt the need to defend my statement.

    Go Ducks!

    sickmyduck

  • sickmyduck said...

    I think we're saying the same thing and disagreeing, which is no small feat.

    Vegas is trying to even out the money, no question. To do so they change the odds to entice the bettor to bet the under-represented side. You seem to be viewing the situation as static from the gamblers perspective. That is, you seem to think that if someone is betting Oregon, they are betting Oregon, regardless of what the sportsbook charges. I disagree. I think that as the line changes (either odds or spread) the majority of the new action comes from people reacting to that change.

    Thus, my statement that vegas is trying to discourage people from betting Oregon by offering worse odds.

    And as long as we're nitpicking, changing the line does not allow Vegas to get the vig without opening itself up to exposure. Rather, it's an attempt to get some fraction of the vig without opening itself up to exposure. They end up getting much less than the original 1/22 of the bets if they have to adjust the odds to even out the money on both sides.

    The other option is to move the line, leaving the odds at -110. In this case they still get their 1/22 vig, but open themselves up to the doomsday scenario of getting middled where they lose/tie the majority of their bets at both the old and new line. Since 3 is such a good number in football, Vegas will try their best not to come off this line, and rather just adjust the odds (at the expense of some fraction of their vig). If the line were originally 2.5, I'd guess it would have moved to 2 by now, rather than keeping the line and adjusting the odds. I guess that depends no the individual book and their level of risk tolerance, though.

    I'm sure nobody but me (and possibly you, Desert) care about any of this, but I felt the need to defend my statement.

    Go Ducks!

    I didn't mean to attack your statement at all. We were essentially saying the same thing after re-reading your first post. Sorry if i came off like a a-hole.

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  • not at all. I've been hanging around here for a while reading everyone's input and appreciate it all. I too like gambling and just wanted to talk about it. no a-holeishness detected at all, haha. Sorry if I came off sensitive - I really wasn't. Go Ducks!

    sickmyduck

  • You know who is going to win when it comes to waivers and grade appeals. Can you imagine the poor prof who doesn't "play"?

    I'm sure EVERY Auburn player will be eligible for this game.

    This post was edited by billm on 1/6/2011 at 12:48 AM

    billm

  • DITD and Sick, thanks for the discussion, I found it quite interesting.

    The question remains though, are the Duckies going to win?

    SOTBD