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AvroDuck said...
Come on people, we've got all kinds of swag!
Glass half empty = probably gonna whiff on some potential studs in recruiting
Glass half full = we just won the Rose Bowl!!!
Glass half empty = our recruiting doesn't have any 5 star recruits
Glass half full = we just won the Rose Bowl!!!
Glass half empty = Cal this, Cal that...
Glass half full = We just won the fucking Rose Bowl!!!
Glass half empty = Team X might be good next year
Glass half full = Oregon's going to be Top fucking 5!!! (and we just won the Rose Bowl!!!)Glass half empty = time for another cold one!
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wig said...
It's not a black or white thing. Oregon just won the Rose Bowl and is about to have one of the top couple recruiting classes ever. OF COURSE I am happy with that! Can I not both be extremely excited with current success AND wish, say, McCarthy would come here?
USC is like a german car, every piece that breaks is of the highest quality.
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AvroDuck said...
Yes. Yes you can. But it's clear he's not already so its time to move on from him. We all play the 5 star dream lineup game, I look at lists all the time and pencil in who would dominate on the field, but the reality is we are usually on the outside looking in for many of these 5 stars. I thought we would have a great shot at Murphy but that will probably prove wrong. There's a time and a place to cut free and be happy with what you've got rather than what you could have rather than drag on the misery. Just a difference in perspective I guess.
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AvroDuck said...
Come on people, we've got all kinds of swag!
Glass half empty = probably gonna whiff on some potential studs in recruiting
Glass half full = we just won the Rose Bowl!!!
Glass half empty = our recruiting doesn't have any 5 star recruits
Glass half full = we just won the Rose Bowl!!!
Glass half empty = Cal this, Cal that...
Glass half full = We just won the fucking Rose Bowl!!!
Glass half empty = Team X might be good next year
Glass half full = Oregon's going to be Top fucking 5!!! (and we just won the Rose Bowl!!!)Glass half empty = time for another cold one!
USC can't attribute Oregon success on the field to sanctions!

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Bairdy said...
Maybe it did, but probably not as much as 5 star chasing and poor player development the last couple of PC's tenure. The cupboards weren't exactly stocked when Pete left, were they? But that really is a separate point. AvroDuck is simply saying that the sanctions have very little or no relation to Oregon's success. Since the sanctions were handed down; how many recruits can you name that USC really went after hard, but went to Oregon instead? DAT is out of the conversation since his decision had nothing to do with sanctions.
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Duck_Your_Luck said...
DAT's decision had nothing to do with USC being on sanctions??!!! Um... WTF?? You gotta be kidding me. I bet the first words out of CK's mouth was, "Man, sorry I'm late Mr. Thomas, my flight back from the NCG was delayed. Man, sure is nice being able to play in post-season bowls, too bad USC still can't even do that next year either. By the way, you wanna come visit Oregon some time? You'll love it up there." Let's be real, USC being on sanctions had impacts on every recruit that was considering going there. From bowl bans to loss of scholarships, it makes them all think. DAT is one, and Blackmon is another guy that would've been a USC lock if they weren't on sanctions. BJ Kelly, DAT, Blackmon, and you have multiple out of state guys that would normally be taking long looks at USC over us if they were going to come out west to play ball.
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Duck_Your_Luck said...
That's very true joeduck. I didn't mention that Kiffin wanted DAT at DB, and Kelly wanted him at RB/WR. That's a very good point. I was mainly trying to point at the post above, where the guy said that USC being on sanctions had NOTHING to do with DAT going to Oregon... DAT played DB in the All-American game his senior year and was lighting up the field. He would've made for a stud DB.
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Duck_Your_Luck said...
And in regards to the, "We should be the beneficiary's to the USC sanctions instead of Cal" feelings, let's be real. Those guys that wanted to go to USC and would've been locks for there are going to Cal because A. It's still in CA B. A great school, education, and networking possibilities once out of college, and C. Still has the big-town vibe with it's close proximity to the bay area big-cities. We definitely have benefitted from USC's sanctions in that those athletes that would've picked them, DAT, Blackmon, Kelly, etc. picked Oregon. Notice how Cal is getting the defensive players and linemen?? That's because Oregon plays a very different defense, plays 3-4, and the defense subs, A LOT. Other teams don't do that. Oregon's scheme is for the D-line to take the double-teams and for LB's to come in free... Why would McCarthy or Armstead want to come to a school where they are the guys getting double-teamed while the LB's fire away?? That's why those big linemen love the 4-3. That mainly applies to the D-linemen, guys like Thompsen,etc. who play Safety or DB are different. Thompsen clearly loves Cal, and has family ties to that school. We load up on Safeties and DB's each year. But as far as linemen go, they wouldn't go to us anyways, we gotta realize it's not the recruiting, or lack thereof, it's not just that they don't like Oregon, it's also our defensive style. There's a reason we don't land these big time linemen except for once in a blue moon. But let's be real, for the style we play, we got the exact guys we need in the class.







Cal the beneficiary of USC recruiting limits