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Yeah he said if it was up to him, he would never have left Eugene.
Yup. Pretty cool that Kyle said he would've stayed in Eugene forever if he could've. Lol, Kyle is a special talent and I defintiely think he'll be probowl caliber in a few years once he has fully learned the position. I'm not ready to say he'll be a HOF, but I am confident in saying I think he'll be a probowler eventually. It was a bummer he was denied another year as a Duck because I definitely think one more year on the D1 level would've given him more experience and recognition which would've made him a first round pick imo. Now he'll have to ride out a 3 year contract before he gets the big paycheck, but he'll get his.
Very unlikely, but I think there's a cjance some team might take a chance on him and pick him up the late 1st rd. He has all the athleticism, talent and measurables to go in the 1st, but him being a bit raw is what makes it unlikely. He has a ton of upside though and in a few years he'll be playing first round production. Some team will get a steal in the 2nd with KL. Just like some team will get a steal with Kiko in the 3rd.
SF was losing, Seattle was losing, Philly was losing. Losing is the culture that brought about the need for a new coach. It is silly to think that management doesn't want Chip to change the culture.
MBV a question for you. From other posts I have the understanding that you have coached in the Metro League. How long have you been there? Also what position do you coach or are you a coordinator or head coach? I played when Hillsboro was in the league and graduated in 77. I played OL and DL until I was a senior when they moved me to LB on defense. At 5'10" and 165 I was a little small on the line. Never really adjusted to LB. Our program deteriorated rapidly when Coach Davis left after my freshman year. The new coach brought a new "culture" that didn't sustain what "Mouse" had developed.
Couldn't agree more. And you know how the draft works. There could be a run on O lineman, as it's a very deep draft class, and someone could take him late in the 1st. And you never know, his stock could continue to rise with a great Pro Day. One thing that I think could help hi maybe go in the 1st is he's such a diverse talent. He has the athleticism to play at RT and the nastiness and size to kick down to LG, and he could easily put on another 15 lbs or so if he dropped down to Guard. I was pretty confident that he would perform well down there, but it sure is nice to see him do it. I think Kiko will do the same thing when he gets his chance, as will Dion. The combine is tailor made for freak athlete like Dion to be successful, and IMO the same goes for Kiko. I really think his athleticism will shine in those drills. All homerish tendencies aside, I would take Kiko over Teo everyday of the week. Faster, more athletic with a higher upside
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Would really like to see Kyle Long sneak into the first round. It would help our recruiting down the road. It would be evidence that the NFL is looking for talent not what school players come from. Terron Armstead and Eric Fisher are both good examples of this.
No, I coached out at Centennial before I left this summer to go work and coach at Park City Hs in Utah. But, the HC I worked for was good friends with Coach Casey, so we would do a ton of stuff with Aloha in the spring and summer. I generally coach RB's and LB's, but I have also coached Wr's and DL. Hell. one year they needed me to coach on the O line and I was unhappy at first but it ended up being the best thing for me as a coach as it taught me so much more about our offense. Now, I watch a ton of O Line play during games. The guy I coached for Chris Knudsen( and played for) was out at HilHi right after you left and was there as an Asst Football coach and HC of the track teams(who were great) until he got the job at CHS. I have been the HC at sub var levels and this season was the OC out here at PCHS. Mouse was a great one, I have got to know him pretty well through Coach Knute and I could listen to Mouse stories all day long. One of footballs great minds
I went to a birthday party in Honolulu and got to chat it up with Mouse and June Jones quite a bit, Mouse had quite a few stories, June, not so much.
I go to Utah every year to ski and I always eat at Shabu, is world class if you haven't been yet! Gotta go to HighWest Distillery too!
How is the talent in PC? I know SLC has some talent, but I know nothing of PC.
Thanks for the reply. I would think the things you learned by coaching multiple positions gives you a lot more insight than a lot of us. I never have been a coach so can only make observations on what I see. I do feel that in some ways I understand the game pretty well as I have frequent conversations with my older brother who played for Mouse and went on to play in the Northwest Conf. at Pacific University. I have a great appreciation for those who have much more time to study the game than I do. Wish you much success at Park City and maybe there will be some prospects you can encourage our way.
Its cool to hear he loves Eugene that much. When his playing days are over maybe he will come back and coach.
No talent out here in PC. Football season was BRUTAL. There is some talent in Utah though, couple good DT's down in Southern Utah. We played against a kid who was going to New Mexico, I wasn't overly impressed. I went and saw the kid who's going to Bama. He looked good, but I wasn't overwhelmed by any stretch. It's tough to see a QB from HS and have a good idea how he will be in college IMO.
Except for two years when Colt was there they haven't been very good since. Haven't won a game in two years. One of my best friends from the team when I played, Brian Bean, coached them for a while with some good seasons but never had playoff success.
And then they went and pulled a sh!tty move and fired Coach Ingram, the one guy who brought any kind of success to the program in a very long time. In the end, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t
No one can win with out talent. To bad he wasn't able to get enough guys to participate. Most schools have some athletes who could keep them competitive but must have been a tough sell without administration support.
I love the evolution of our program. 2 or 3 years ago, friends of mine from the South, used the "imagined" lack of NFL players we would send to the the league against me. I've been telling them for years, "in a year or two, we're going to be an NFL factory." They'd respond by saying we weren't sending anybody in the first round, top 10 etc. Well anyway, one of those friends calls me asking me about Dion Jordan, and it made me so happy responding to him by saying, "I told you so!" lol
Anyway, Oregon players have increasingly trickled into the league, being drafted higher and higher. I told him again, wait til next. Next year, I think we FLOOD THE NFL WITH OREGON PLAYERS. He asked if I thought 3 or 4 players would be drafted. My response was "a lot more than that!" Bout time I got finished, my list of players drafted (some depending on if they declare early) went like this: Marcus, Bo Lok, Wade, Ricky, Huff, DAT, Colt, Terrance Mitchell, IFO, Taylor Hart, Grasu, and maybe even Jackson Rice.
The point was, Oregon for the forseeable future IMO, went from trickling players into the league, into flooding the league, and I love it! Now all we gotta do is win the Championship and I can tell them all to STFU! lol
Been saying this for a long time, the only reason any school sends more players to the NFL is because more talented players go there. A 7-6 USC team this will send players to the NFL because the PLAYERS have the talent. The difference is only this, would those talented players prefer to play at USC with nice weather and PAST history or at Oregon with a rising program and the best facilities anywhere.
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