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He was the main guy that filled in for johnstone at LT in the civil war, so I would say he already cracked it
RB: DAT/Marshall/Tyner (I see a complete split of the carries)
TE: Lyerla/ Brown
WR: Huff/ Kelley
WR: Hawkins/ Stanford
WR: Lowe/ Addison (DAT will see heavy time too)
LT: Johnstone, Andre Y
LG: Euscher, Stevens (I think Euscher will get the call)
C: Grassu, Armstrong
RG: Greig, Prater
RT: Fisher, Benyard
WDE: Hart, Armstead
NT: Wade Keliikipi, Balducci
SDE: Heimuli, Buckner
Drop-End: Washington, French (Prevot may sneak in here soon, MudBloodVeer, im gonna keep an eye on French haha)
Will: Malone, Coleman
Mike: Cassel, Walker (I think Walker will be the starting MLB by the end of the year)
Sam: Lokombo, Hardrick
CB: Ifo, Hill
CB: Mitchell, Mathis
FS: Patterson, Daniels
SS: Jackson, Dargan
Note on the secondary: This secondary is deep and I can see one of the Amoako twins seeing time along with Dunmore
KR: Thomas and Lowe
Great reminder about Stetzon Bair!
The future is looking Rosy
There are only so many spots on a two deep. Bair and Carriger and Oshay, and the Amako's will play in blowouts for experience but that doesnt mean they're on the two deep.
Carriger will play ahead of French at OLB, bet on it.
So you think Carriger will be the second string drop end to start the season?
I don't know where he'll play, but if I had to guess, I'd say Drop End. Why waste his athletic ability at a position like SDE? Our DL guys are great and very athletic for the position, but Carriger is a different breed like DAT and Lyerla.
But the new normal is guys that can play more than one position. For example, Carriger could switch between SDE and Drop, while Prevot could potentially split Drop and WILL.
This post was edited by Natty_Dread 17 months ago
This is a great thread, team work always wins.
Aslo, I have to say It was nice to read a thread with no bickering.
This post was edited by orsports2 17 months ago
QB, CB, WR, T, C, S and TE are positions we all pretty much agree upon so I am just going to fill in the rest for me.
RB: Marshall / Tyner this could be reversed by end of season but I think it starts out this way.
RG: Stevens / Andre Y
LG: Greig / K. Armstrong
DE: Hart / A. Armstrong
DT: Kiliikipi / Heimuli
DE: Buckner / Ebert
Drop End: Washington / Carriger / BoLo
SAM: BoLo / Coleman
Mike: Hardrick / Walker again could reverse but I think it starts out this way at least for spring.
Will: Malone / Cassell
Coaches have always been high on Buckner, he was actually higher on there board than Armstead and I think he was a little ahead of Armstead last year so I am giving him the nod for now. I also would not be surprised to see BoLo get some run at Drop End having him and Coleman in at the same time.
This post was edited by travelingd 17 months ago
Think that you mean Walker at Mike.
I did, Thanks.... Changed it.
Brandon Bair was 6'7" 272 lbs his senior year. Stetzon Bair is currently 6'9" 270 lbs.
Stetzon is entering the spring coming off his redshirt year, and still has three years to play. He also already took his mission, so he is older than most RS-Sophomores. It's not unreasonable to imagine him in the 275-285 pound range by season start. Remember what his brother did for us. Comparing weight and height between the two brother, and one would think that the senior Brandon was more dense and probably stronger than his sophomore sibling, but Stetzon, if he plays strong, has more leverage potential than Brandon.
There's a lot of talent in front of Stetzon this year, so cracking the two deep may be tough, but maybe he forces it to be three deep, especially if he gains 10 or more pounds of muscle and gets stronger.
This post was edited by TheRoseyDucks 17 months ago
KOD/pdxhawaiian/MVB - where are the Texas twins??? You don't think they will crack the two deep after red-shirting a year?
This post was edited by duckdeb 17 months ago
Enjoy Life, it has an expiration date.
Honestly I haven't heard much on the twins, good or bad. Like MBG said we are pretty deep at safety so I don't see them cracking the 2 deep there, but CB is possible.
Great thread and posts you guys. My unsung pick to click: Doug Brenner passes Armstrong to back up Hroniss. Karrington will see time on the interior, probably see the field often, but Brenner is the future center of the team IMO and I expect to see the young man in relief apperances sooner than some might think.
Dunno how often we give Grasu a spell during blowouts but I think DB comes in and contributes immediately. If he's anything like his sister Liz, he will make his presence felt. I know O-line guys usually take that redshirt year to acclimate, but I think the intellect, drive and selfessness I have heard locals here in Beaverton say he brought to Jesuit last few years will be his trump card.
On defense, Malone will grab the reins at WILL and never look back. He was third in tackles at LB last year, ahead of BoLo, and he is the most instinctual sniper for runners, especailly when they bounce outside.
This post was edited by DuckDude 17 months ago
Natty, I will buy you dinner if Prevot gets 1 snap at WILL! lol
I think many are forgetting how good Malone is and how well Coleman played at SAM.
I know I've said it often, but I think we see BoLo slide over to dropend and Coleman start at SAM with Walker at MIKE and Malone at WILL, at least early on until guys like Prevot/Carriger are up to speed.
Also, just because Adrian Peterrson can get back to 100% in 9 months doesn't mean everyone can-see Patterson. Dargan will start, at least until Patterson is 100%.
OK - Wogan averaged 43.x yards per punt which was better than Rice last year. Have we ever considered using our kicker as a Punter?
I was only trying to demonstrate the type of athletes those guys are.
Why would BoLo switch to Drop when we have Tony Washington there?
Malone, Coleman and BoLo are all good players, but who plays at MIKE? Walker isn't likely to see the field a whole lot his first year. Cassell hasn't really impressed all that much, and while Hardrick has the potential, there are questions about his health. MIKE is the biggest hole on the team next year.
He also caught some passes too.....
I think you want him to focus on one or the other, this will also reduce a chance for injury.
If you look at film from when Dion was out, BoLo went to Drop at times with Coleman at SAM.
Gotta have your best players on the field and that is not a knock on Washington.
I am concerned with Washington's ability to cover.
Might we see more 4-3 sets this year?
Back to the OL. Since there are only 10 players returning, it's more a case of playing musical chairs. IMO, If/when any incoming freshmen crack the 2-deep, it will depend on:
1) Has Mana Greig fully recovered from injury?
2) Has Jamal Prater developed enough to see PT?
3) Will 2013 see more season ending injuries?
The 10 scholarship/lettermen returning are:
Sr Everett Benyard III(T/G)
Sr Karington Armstrong(C/G)
Sr Mana Greig(*LG/C)
Jr Hroniss Grassu(*C)
Jr Jacob Fisher(*RT/G)
Jr Hamani Stevens(G/C)
So Tyler Johnstone(*LT/G)
So Andre Yruretagoyena(G/T)
So James Euscher(T/G)
So Jamal Prater(G)
* Returning starters(4)-Greig took over at LG after York was injured
Gotta figure there will be missed games as someone on the O-Line ALWAYS gets dinged up, just part of the game. Andre Y and Euscher seem the most likely to take big steps forward in my opinion. Benyard has mass...and that's truly his greatest asset, as he is not the most agile or dominant. Great point on Prater. He is a wild card , as we have heard less about him than a lot of guys. Wonder about our blocking scheme under Helf. Will it evolve as I expect us to pass a bit more? Will we feature more TEs on the field at the same time for O-Line support/multiplicity of route-runners? Spring ball will be a true litmus test now that the last of the guys who played O-line in the Natty are turning to vapor. New blood pumping hard.
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