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The Fish Report: "Fairley Bad"

  • I don't suppose the D line tackles out there, huh? I'll bet if you rewind UO game film, you will see plenty of similar tackles on QB sacks made by your DL. It's not a Fairley thing it's a football thing. The one thing we have learned at AU is don't take what ESPN says at face value, do a little research to get the facts. With the exception of a couple of plays, which he was flagged for, they were all legal hits. Chop blocking to make it even? C'mon man! That's Bush League, PeeWee football crap. As for the "make him think in space" comment, the man is pretty smart and very instinctual...we'll see how that works out for ya.

    I'd say your analysis is "Fairley Inaccurate"

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by ashvilleagle 4 years ago

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  • benias said... (original post)

    Just to clarify, I have watched most of the auburn games. I enjoy watching football, so that makes auburn games must watch this year. The plays in question were pretty bad. Maybe not when you take a single play by itself, but when taken into greater context. He is a dominant player. No doubt about that. We would love to have players of his caliber lining up on our side of the ball. That being said, the late hit on the Georgia QB was gross and inexplicable. I also agree with you that some of these calls are getting out of hand. I don't want to see football wussified either. However that hit in particular is the exact type of play the officials are trying to eliminate. I am pretty sure both teams will play a clean hard game and this won't be an issue we discuss afterwards. It's more likely that we will discuss the plays that broke the game one way or the other (LGB kicking ball through end zone, Matthews dropping a pick 6 on the first play of the game). Hope you guys have fun watching the game. Should be fun to see the big bad sec "destroy" a lesser opponent. I'm curious though, what will your opinion be if Oregon wins? Did they deserve to win or will you continue to slight them because they aren't in the SEC?

    The hit on Murray was poor judgment on Nick's part, and he will tell you that. His job is to disrupt your offense. Count on him doing that. He's not dirty; he had one play that I know he'd like to have back. Other than that, he's been on a mission to tackle the man with the football. If he can make that man with the football wish he didn't have it again, so much the better. Again, its football, not badminton.

    We believe, as anyone who is truly being objective, that the SEC is the premier football conference right now and has been for a while. But if after 60 minutes of football on the 10th, if your Ducks have won, you will have our respect. We (sane) fans and members of the SEC don't think we're unbeatable. In fact, I think this is going to be a great game.

    I can see where you think you're not getting the respect you think you deserve when you hear people talking about how you'd do in the SEC. I tend to believe that the Ducks would have done well in the SEC this year. Undefeated. Probably not. Doesn't matter though. Just two teams left standing. I'll be there and I'm sure you and a lot of your fellow Ducks will be too. Should be a great game. I can't wait.

  • Wow, I had no idea that "Nick" was such an honorable and upstanding man. Thanks for filling us in Barners. I'm sure he would like to have that hit back. Are you serious? I'm just as sure that he probably downed a 40 with the rest of the D line in a toast to that hit. He is a dirty player and it is Auburn fans that can't see it through their orange and blue glasses. Hopefully Greatwood schemes well enough that dirty Nick doesn't get the oppurtunity to cheap shot Thomas.

  • Hello Fish - AU fan here. "Realist" pretty much summarizes my thoughts but I have to comment on the following from your post:

    "Nick finally made his bones in this game at 2:05 mark in the 4th quarter. The QB has thrown the ball and is looking downfield for the result, and his follow-through already had his throwing arm clear across his body. Fairley was being blocked and pushed downward, so as he was going down he contorted his body to get his head lined up and jutted his helmet into the planted knee of the QB. Murray went down in great pain; he was out. I simply could not believe what I saw in this game! "

    Nick was blocked right into the QB and his helment hit the QB in the shin (bumped may be a better term). I literally started laughing out loud when you said "contorted his body to get his head lined up." You have some amazing 6th sense and imagination to think you know that. I see lots of contorted bodies during an SEC football game from the smashing going on (Newton's Law?). The other very comical part of the above paragraph is "Murray went down in great pain: he was out." Did you happen to see the little freshman Murray look up as he raised up and saw Fairley laying at his feet. He started grabbing at his leg like a dog that got run over and then limped off the field like he was out for the year. The next play is when UGa targeted and fell on top of Fairley. Did you happen to see Murray RUN off the field about 5 minutes later???? Did you see that??? It was a rediculous fake job trying to get attention to Fairley by the refs, Fortunately the ref standing right there watching wasn't buffaloed like you.

    As "realist" said the spear in the back by Fairley was ridiculous and I am glad the UGa QB was not injured. The other alleged "dirty" plays by Fairley are football - at least the way men play it in the South.

    Looking forward to a competitive game on Jan 10th for 2.5 quarters. Fairley is just one player for Oregon to be concerned about. War Cam Eagle! AU 45 Oregon 31

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  • Fairley is an aggressive player, no doubt about it. But the idea that he was magically contorting his body to purposefully hurt QBs with the way he fell is beyond ridiculous. So you honestly think Fairley had the quickness and presence of mind to instantaneously contort his body while falling so as to hit the Georgia QB in the knee? You have been watching the slo-mo scenes from The Matrix too many times, my friend.

    As for the plays where Fairley picked the QBs up and slammed them down, he was warned not to do that anymore and hasn't. For all you obsessive film watchers, please review the Alabama and SECCG games and point to a single legitimately dirty play by Fairley. You can't, because there isn't one. Maybe you should worry more about blocking him and less about casting aspersions.

  • DuckedUp said... (original post)

    Wow, I had no idea that "Nick" was such an honorable and upstanding man. Thanks for filling us in Barners. I'm sure he would like to have that hit back. Are you serious? I'm just as sure that he probably downed a 40 with the rest of the D line in a toast to that hit. He is a dirty player and it is Auburn fans that can't see it through their orange and blue glasses. Hopefully Greatwood schemes well enough that dirty Nick doesn't get the oppurtunity to cheap shot Thomas.

    I love it when people put words in other people's mouths.. I didn't say he was an honorable and upstanding man. I said he's not dirty and that there's one hit he'd like to have back.

    I actually thought the original post on Nick was pretty well done. It went through his strengths well and even did a good job of documenting his destruction of some opposing quarterbacks.

    You guys have bought into the notion that he's dirty and well, that's not accurate. What is accurate is that you haven't faced anyone like him and he's coming for your quarterback.

  • This is not a game for sissies. If you don't want to get hurt, stay on the bench.

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  • Not sure chop blocking is a tactic to get even. Once again, completely legal play so long as the defensive player isn't engaged with another offensive player.

    Navy does it all of the time, and it is a great tactic to employ against larger lineman (and it tires them out). Regardless, I don't support cheap shots from anyone, its one of the reasons I hate Boise St., and anyone who goes out there and does the same crap they do.

    AJ

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  • BigTunaDuck said... (original post)

    Not sure chop blocking is a tactic to get even. Once again, completely legal play so long as the defensive player isn't engaged with another offensive player.

    Navy does it all of the time, and it is a great tactic to employ against larger lineman (and it tires them out). Regardless, I don't support cheap shots from anyone, its one of the reasons I hate Boise St., and anyone who goes out there and does the same crap they do.

    AJ

    I think the reference was more towards some UO fans calling for some Duck players to get even/revenge. Yet they whine about unsportsman-like play from Fairley? *ring* *ring* hello kettle? yeah, this is pot...

    "Alabama fans love Alabama football, Auburn fans love Auburn" -- Patrick Fain Dye

  • I'm not gonna get in a spitting match with Auburn fans, and will make this respectful and not call names. For the most part you guys love your team the same way that we love our Ducks, and will defend them.

    That being said, I have a couple issues/comments here.

    1. No one can really know what was going through NF mind on a lot of these plays. Only he knows that.
    2. Football is a rough game. No one hear is denying that. This is the first year since Chip has been with Oregon that we have basically had 1 QB play the whole year (besides WSU). All of the QBs that have been injured in the past have been hurt on plays that are a part of the game(besides Masoli against Boise), and you will NEVER hear us condemning the players that hit our QBs clean and they got injured.
    3. A lot of these hits are "questionable" but the Georgia Game was inexplicable to me. Yes he got flagged, and losing your temper happens. When you injure a player though where you lose your temper you should be suspended no if's and's or but's. If Brandon Bair Lost his temper, hit Andrew Luck and injured him, I sure hope that all of us Duck fans would say he needed to be suspended, and I believe that Chip would do so.

    With all that being said, our main concern is for the health of our QB on plays that are over, or he is completely defenseless. If NF hits DT on a read option, and it is clean, it will nothing more than football. If NF hits DT late, then a lot of Duck fans are going to be heated, and rightfully so.

    Hitting QB's late enough to draw flags (which some will say NF has done with a pattern), is bush league and is indefensible.

    Those are just my thoughts. Not trying to insult anyone, just trying to have a discussion.

    This post was edited by DuckInTheDesert 4 years ago

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  • And another thought, does AU really want to be like Bama last year, and have their win be against a true freshman QB who comes in?

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  • BigTunaDuck said... (original post)

    Not sure chop blocking is a tactic to get even. Once again, completely legal play so long as the defensive player isn't engaged with another offensive player.

    Navy does it all of the time, and it is a great tactic to employ against larger lineman (and it tires them out). Regardless, I don't support cheap shots from anyone, its one of the reasons I hate Boise St., and anyone who goes out there and does the same crap they do.

    AJ

    I agree. I was a lineman in high school and we got cut by people often if they felt like they couldn't block us or on screen plays. Navy and GT do the best jobs of it because they are coached correctly. But when another is engaged, then it turns dirty and ruins careers, I know from experience. I had offers for d1 til I got chopped and tore ACL MCL and my meniscus. I believe it will be a clean and close game for most of the time. I do believe that it will take some great scheming to take out our line and keep them from being in your backfield an disrupting plays

    Good luck to you and hope this is a great game and that we all understand it us just a football game (one we shall win) but just a game otherwise. Lol

  • We never want to be like bama. I hope y'all bring your best just as I hope we bring our best and them we will Reilly know who deserves to be no 1

  • Hey DesertDuck, I'm pretty much with you. We both love our teams for sure..

    1. Nick has said that the late hit on Murray was one he would want back. So I agree with you - only he would know that. He does.
    2. No issue.
    3. The one in the Georgia game against Murray was not inexplicable. It was stupid. It deserved a penalty and he would love to have that poor decision back. He didn't lose his temper; he made a stupid decision to hit him after the whistle.

    As a previous poster said, review every play since that hit and you will not find a late hit. If he hits your qb late, we will understand you getting heated. I don't see that happening. It's happened once all year and he's gotten a bad rap because of that hit and because he's sent a few qb's to the sidelines with legit hits.

    As I said before, I think this is going to be a great game. I also said you guys haven't seen anyone like this guy and he really is coming after your qb .. on every snap. Should be fun!

  • Like I said WarEagle, I have watched a fair amount of Auburn football this year (just due to me being a fan of the game).

    I think that this is where the issue is with NF. Hitting the QB is a strategy of probably 75% of defenses in both NCAA and NFL to throw QB's off their game, but players don't hope to injure the opposing teams QB. What has gotten Fairley the bad rap is that QB's get injured. That ISN'T saying that he is dirty, but more to explain the fact of his reputation. Whether it is his intention or not to injure them, only he will know.

    Most of all, all us Duck fans just want the game to be clean and for it to be game where our best matchup with your best.

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  • I would like to point out one inaccuracy in the original post... Nick Fairley doesn't sub out because of poor conditioning (and if that was the reason, he wouldn't have the body control to pull off the mid-air moves you claim he makes on a regular basis). AU plays 8 defensive linemen so that there's always a fresh body out there playing hard, fast, and aggressive. It has helped win many games this year by having the starters fresh in the 4th quarter. It's a rotation that has worked extremely well all year, and I expect it to continue in the BCSNCG.

    As an aside, keep an eye out for Zach Clayton. He's a run stopping machine.

    "Alabama fans love Alabama football, Auburn fans love Auburn" -- Patrick Fain Dye

  • Using Greco Roman wrestling "bodyslams" to tackle only has one purpose. So Barners, please explain Nick's "technique" if it isn't being used to injure players.

    Trying to defend Fairley is making all of you look silly. Stop being homers for 5 minutes and you will see it. NEVERMIND.

  • DuckedUp said... (original post)

    Wow, I had no idea that "Nick" was such an honorable and upstanding man. Thanks for filling us in Barners. I'm sure he would like to have that hit back. Are you serious? I'm just as sure that he probably downed a 40 with the rest of the D line in a toast to that hit. He is a dirty player and it is Auburn fans that can't see it through their orange and blue glasses. Hopefully Greatwood schemes well enough that dirty Nick doesn't get the oppurtunity to cheap shot Thomas.

    You call this a "dirty player"? quote from Nick after the bama game, when asked about the disputed unsportsmanlike conduct penalty:

    “I just have to keep my composure more. It’s never on the officials. If the official throws a flag, he’s always right.”

    And for you fans who are looking at video from the uga game (note: we don't capitalize it on purpose), check out the chop blocks they committed against us, the eye gouging and the punches they threw first near the end of the game, not to mention their entire team leaving the bench for the field to join in (our team stayed on the sidelines, except for the 11 on the field for play)....none of which they got called for.

    Ohh and don't forget the "injuries" they faked near the end to buy time because they were GASSED.

    If you don't want Nick taking down your QB you may want to watch out for T'Sharvan Bell. He did a good job of (cleanly but forcefully) bringing down Greg McElroy like a rag doll all by himself, even though he's 6'0"/180 and Greg is 6'3"/225...jus' sayin'.

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  • fishduck said... (original post)

    . . . . . .Unbelievable. This monster Defensive Tackle injured TWO QBs in one game? Yikes. . . . . . . . . when it occurs with this frequency and with this large an injury report in the SEC—it becomes a PLAN. A PLAN to take out the opposing QBs, that has to occur with the silent consent of the Defensive Line coach, the Defensive Coordinator, and the Head Coach . . . . . . . .

    Is Auburn going to be honorable?

    Absolutely terrifying, isn't it?

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  • Why is a west coast guy calling us barners? He's the first and only I've heard do that. Doesn't bother me, I'm proud of auburn and it's past present and future. Greco roman body slams? Have you seen how big Jefferson is? Go check his stats. I want to say he is 6'3 225 or 230. No small guy in his own right. Is there another instance of body slams? Just looking for friendly debate. Nothing personal

  • wrj0003 said... (original post)

    Why is a west coast guy calling us barners? He's the first and only I've heard do that. Doesn't bother me, I'm proud of auburn and it's past present and future. Greco roman body slams? Have you seen how big Jefferson is? Go check his stats. I want to say he is 6'3 225 or 230. No small guy in his own right. Is there another instance of body slams? Just looking for friendly debate. Nothing personal

    Because they are like bama....and they treat Oregon State the way bama treats us. VERY similar rivalry.

    Gives us even more incentive...

  • DuckedUp said... (original post)

    Using Greco Roman wrestling "bodyslams" to tackle only has one purpose. So Barners, please explain Nick's "technique" if it isn't being used to injure players.

    Trying to defend Fairley is making all of you look silly. Stop being homers for 5 minutes and you will see it. NEVERMIND.

    Most of the Duck posters have been knowledgable, hospitable, and civil. You are quite different. Are you insunating that thru this technique that our coaches, or any coach at any school, teach dirty tactics? If you do, you should probably change the first letter in your user name because I assure you they do not. Football by nature is a physical game and roughing penalties are called IN ALMOST EVERY GAME played HS, college, and pro. So, we have an old saying down south..."If you can't stand the heat..stay out of the kitchen".

    Remember: If The Jury Box Is Stacked With Foxes...The Chickin Is Always Guilty

  • fishduck said... (original post)

    Nick Fairley hits Quarterbacks thumbsup

    LaMichael James hits women thumbdown

    ...nuff said

    Nice.

    $cam steals laptops, cheats on papers, and takes money to play.

    Read the police report and then come explain why he got in trouble. I'm still having a hard time understanding why he spent a night in jail?

  • benias said... (original post)

    Nice.

    $cam steals laptops, cheats on papers, and takes money to play.

    Read the police report and then come explain why he got in trouble. I'm still having a hard time understanding why he spent a night in jail?

    Didn't steal the laptop..bought a stolen laptop..there's a difference. Just wanted you to get your facts straight. As to the last two accusations...care to show us your proof?

    Remember: If The Jury Box Is Stacked With Foxes...The Chickin Is Always Guilty

  • Read the police report.