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Just my opinion but priority number 1 should be getting the player evaluations over for the big guys as soon as possible even if Aiken needs other coaches to go and get the character evaluations done. Allen Havili and Bryan Mone were two promising prospects based on location but both are now committed elsewhere although we should offer and recruit them hard anyway. Outside of Nifae Lealao who will be a tough pull there isn't much left on this side of the country. Aiken might have to go to the south and just work his butt off.
It will be interesting to see what his philosophy is in terms of body type. It sure would be nice to land a couple Ricky Heimulis.
Ricky's are nice, but you only play one NG at a time. Would be better to find a couple more Buckner/Armstead type of guys IMO
And how many true NGs do we have on the roster who aren't seniors? Are you expecting the 6'9 Bair to fill that roll?
Here's one of the glaring problems re DTs, at least by looking at Scout's list of each Pac-12 school and all their offers right now. I'm using Scout as an example because their database is easy to use. I have no idea how accurate it is, but you can certainly learn some things.
I counted the number of DT offers by each Pac-12 school that are currently listed in Scout's database. Counting the total # of DT offers, there are only 22 out there. That's not 22 separate names, but 22 offers total. That's less than 2 per team. Keep in mind as well that most of those names are repeats....kids that have offers from many schools in the Pac-12. Utah has offered the most DTs: 4, and Oregon has offered: 0. By contrast, the total # of DEs offered is 43. DE offers out number DT ones by a 2 to 1 margin.
What this looks like right now is 2014 may be a very off year for both quality, and esp, quantity, in terms of DTs in the west. This concerns me as the OP is right in wondering where the Oregon offers are considering it's a definite need for this upcoming class. Trying to reach east of the Mississippi for DTs is a crap shoot at best. This could end up being a year where the bulk of our guys are more in the DE mode and will need to bulk up, which Oregon is certainly no stranger at doing.
Balducci is a NG and I'm pretty sure that Stetzon will play that spot too. I was privy to a convo where Azz said that Stetzon was going to be a bigger, faster, stronger and more athletic version of Brandon. IMO they should take 1 more NG in this class and then a couple of large bodied DE types. In the same convo about Bair, Azz also said he thought Balducci could be alltime good, and it's not like Azz was the kind of guy who was over the top in his compliments so when he said that it really surprised me. I'm not saying that they shouldn't take two NG types, especially with the way they rotate but IMO guys like Armstead/Buckner and Bair are so versatile and can play at a number of spots
I agree with most of your sentiment, but our team is filled with a bunch of jumbo athletes. This is a fantastic thing, however, the impact that a dynamic DT has on a football game is paramount. This isn't to say that we should fish for other dline spots, but I think it's essential to secure one, preferably two solid a-gap linemen.
Trust me, the impact that a great DT can have on a defense isn't lost on me. And like I said, I think they will take one or two NG type guys this next class. My point is that only one of those guys plays on the field at a time, so IMO you wanna get more DE's than NG's.
McDowell and Lealao are definitely in the Amstead/Buckner mold. Enoch Smith seems like he could grown into the NT roll. He's 6'2.5", 270 lbs righft now. Get him up to 305+ and he's good to go. I definitely think we should still pursue Mone and Havili plus Khairi Clark who's a Floridian who has expressed genuine interest in Oregon. He has said Oregon will get a visit. Can't hurt to offer him. We definitely have to throw out a wide net for DT/NT this cycle.
I totally understand. I'm personally thinking that if we could get a good DT haul that it would open up more options schematically. It wouldn't hurt to be able to run both 3-4 and 4-3 whenever we want to mix it up. And besides, you never know when injuries occur. Those big boys are just more appealing because Oregon has not been able to secure many high profile players from that position in recent history. It would also help when we play against the Stanford's, the Bama's, tOSU's and what not.
Malik McDowell, who is 6'6", 300 pounds, DE, could easily end up moving inside, and it appears we are recruiting him and he has interest, so you never know who we are looking at to move inside. I also think that they believe Armstead could move inside, if necessary. He has the size.
Yeah, and I think that the Ducks have the guys on the D line now if they wanna run a 4-3, which I just don't see them doing, but that's not the issue. And IMO, the reason we lost to Stanford wasn't because of the D or the D line. I do think that the D line is much better than the one that we put on the field against tOSU and Auburn, but that's just me. I will also point to the draft, I know people wanna see these big ole slam pigs at NG, but if you look at the top DT's in this draft class they are both right around 300 and can really move. Watching the D line at the combine, those guys who are 330+ just looked sloppy and unathletic. I would take a Sutton over one of those slobby bellied guys every day of the week. Especially when you consider where offenses are going. That's why I really like the Buckner/Armstead types along the front. Please don't get it twisted though, if there was another Haloti out there then I would say that would be a good direction to go in. There's just VERY few of those kinds of talents in football IMO
Considering the lack of DTs in the West this year and how thin our depth chart is after this season it wouldn't surprise me to see us go the JC route to fill the position for this class.
Not a bad idea. There's usually a couple great ones every year.
Wonder how much Oregon has considered internal solutions on the defensive line. Hamani Stevens played some DL in practice as a redshirt freshman. If Oregon feels confident that Voeller and Hunt can provide depth on the offensive line next year, Stevens could be a possibility at NT. Not sure about Jamal Prater, but he seems to have the size to play NT if adds some more bulk.
Just get a Will Suton and i'll be happy.
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This is a very real possibility but it would not be more than one or maybe two guys at most. Past experience shows that recruiting DL from JC has not been consistently successful (but recruiting always has its successes and failures).The good thing is that even if they don't pan out the scholarship is back after a couple years. There is talent to be found there, Remington is one example of that, so the risk is worth it if the need is there.
Not gonna happen Ned, he's going to be starting at OG this season
No chance at all that Hamani goes to the DL.
If the west lacks a certain number of top-tier D-Line talent right now, Oregon's patience will actually play as a strength here. A lot of kids might have an average or middling junior year only to put together a stellar senior campaign. Lotsa time for big kids to impress and get reevaluated. Plus, as size and brawn are essential, our recent recruiting inroads at St. Louis HS (Greig, Mariota), Waianae HS (Keliikipi), and Punahou HS (Buckner) in Hawaii - where they do indeed grow 'em big - will continue to bear massive, impactful fruit. There are unpolished gems working hard to be a part of Oregon football on the islands, best believe.
This post was edited by DuckDude 14 months ago
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