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When was the last time we pulled a stud from that end of the country?
We have 17? offers out right now.
Offers by state:
And then Michigan, Alabama, New York, New Jersey, Texas, Washington, Nevada and Colorado with 1.
I haven't crunched the numbers to do an offer/commit ratio for "east coast" kids, but I don't think it's a stretch to say the ratio is down out the bottom of the basement compared to kids we offer in California or even Texas. Why so much effort on guys we "always" strike out on? We're always the bridesmaid when it comes to these guys. Jake Fisher and Dwayne Stanford were from Michigan/Ohio, not SEC country. When was the last time we pulled a true stud from the southeast? We were "all" stoked when Kelly started to recruit nationally, but very little came of it. Azzinaro was our biggest east coast recruit. It sounded good a the time, especially considering our growing national popularity, but in reality it seemed like mostly a waste of time.
When 10 of our 17 offers from from the heart of SEC country, and 4 of the remaining 7 are 2 time zones away, it makes me wonder.
This post was edited by Trogdor420 17 months ago
Well, Williams is from Georgia and we got him this year. Never hurs to have offers out, you never know what might happen between now and next yr.
Brian Jackson and Tacoi Sumler.
lol, when your answer is a guy who isn't on the team anymore and a guy who was the 71st ranked player at his position with offers from Tulane and UCF, you prove my point.
Ryan Gilliam? Sawing and a miss.
One of, if not the best PK PSA in the country signed with us this year.
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Riiiiight it's a fail because of your example of ONE. Come on. How many blue chip recruits have we pulled from the SE compared to how many offers we've made?
It takes time to build relationships. Oregon is still a new name to the southeast. You have to keep trying miss or not. Eventually they will start getting some guys. And so what that brian jackson wasnt rated that high, there is a ton of talent down there and to not try would be a bad move. Just look at mariota. Just because some website doesn't have them a 5* doesn't mean they wont become a great player. Oh yeah and LMJ wasnt that highly ranked either.
I got you. +1 for valid thoughts. I'm assuming the west coast offers will start ramping up here before spring.
It seems to me like time management. The staff was mainly focused on closing strong but got some east coast offers out while they were already traveling for the last class. Since they spend almost all of the rest of the year on the west coast it's easier to visit the local kids now and going forward.
Edit: I hate when I quote on phone on accident.
This post was edited by wig 17 months ago
No, you just failed, period! First, what is a blue chip? Top 10 in their position, we pulled 5 in this class, 1 from Oregon, 1 from NC, 1 from Texas and 2 from Cal. If you are talking top 5 we pulled 3 this class, 1 from Oregon, 1 from NC and 1 from Cal. So just how many offers do you suppose we had in Cal and Texas? I will bet way more than the whole east coast combined! So just what is this fabled blue chip to offer ratio based in?
Also as wig points out, and was bitched about last cycle, the East gets done first then the west is done in a more measured pace. One would think it is a time management scenario.
This post was edited by L Perry 17 months ago
I have wondered the same thing myself. But only when it seems like east coast offers are coming at the expense of kids from Cali that are just as good and would actually have a chance to sign here. This often seemed to be the case last year and it was frustrating.
I'm assuming that the staff has a plan to ramp up the west coast offers soon. From what I have seen and read from the mods here, this is supposed to be the plan. I would imagine that this year the staff took extra time to talk with kids in the east when they were out there for '13 kids and they gave out some offers while they were there. They are waiting longer for the kids on the west because proximity allows for easier contact. I'm hoping it is all a matter of efficiency. I'm willing to wait until spring before I get upset about the discrepancy.
I need to go in and edit some of those offers, anyone from within 247Sports can add an offer to anyones profile. It can be helpful and a chore in the same instance. Oregon doesn't have more than 3-4 offers out there right now.
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This post was edited by Happyvduck 17 months ago
Whatever bro, you don't want to talk, you just to pretend everything is perfect and that anyone who doesn't fall down in praise at the alter is a negaduck. It's a VALID point and it's sad that you can't pull your head out for one second to consider it.
I understand the points of the original poster but I disagree. As others above mentioned, what are you expecting, no offers at all? These things take time to cultivate the SEC (new areas), will we land all no but you have to offer to even be in the hunt. I like the idea of offering all over the country but we know our bread-N-butter is local or neighboring states. We are finally making in-roads in TX and other states now that our brand is building, give it time and be glad that there are more offers (The Hop to confirm) out there to at least know we are interested in them...something CK was reluctant to do.
BTW not to make fun BUT I find it funny, "we don't offer enough recruits..." to now "we are offereing too many..." funny stuff.
IMHO we need to offer the guys we clearly want sooner and stay in constant contact, be in some sort of contact with others and slow play our backups/fallback recruits. The recruits that need the attention should get it, while the others that need space should get it as well...pretend there women and work them but I hate hearing we stopped contacting a recruit only to need them later...a big mistake when things don't role out as perfectly as you planned.
I have high hopes for our new coaching hires and the NCAAs idea of allowing teams to hire a recruiting staff...but time will tell.
Isaac Dixon, Eric Dungy from Florida and Brian Jackson from Alabama were on the roster last year. James Scales was, but is no longer with the team.
This post was edited by Wood Duck212466 17 months ago
As long as we are talking East Coast offers? I was reading on a NFL draft site that we offered Florida State DE
Bjoern Werner a scholarship. Guess he picked Florida State over us. Is this true? Can somebody verify this?
If its true then THAT was a miss.
This is true. Oregon and Florida State were the finalists for Werner.
Does it bother anybody that we lose out on so many DL prospects?? I mean I know we use a different scheme
than other teams but how many have we recruited in the last two years? What one. Ebert. But how many senior DL do we have on this team? What happens next year.
The staff was checking up on 2014 players at the same time as seeing Williams. A two-for-one... might explain 5 of them.
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This whole thread is a moot point. We only have 4 offers out and not a ton of time and effort is put into kids on the east coast for that exact reason -- they are too far away. A majority of the kids we go after are in our 'pipelines' unless they reach out to the staff.
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Nope, since we now have an NFL pedigree defensive line coach who has experience at all levels (pro, college and high school). So I am hoping that trend will be reversed. He's had success putting guys into the NFL and coaching up guys who are already there. Would have loved to see what he would have done with EV, but moving on...
Well as long as we have some next year. I don't see any problems either, I guess.
I do find it funny that somebody will find something to complain about regardless of what we do. Last cycle we complained about not offering Jaynard Bostwick, Montravious Adams, etc, etc. We also had this same complaint last year ("why waste our time in the southeast"). We complain when we offer too many kids ("Joe Walker, Jake P., Doug Brenner aren't the caliber players we should be going after"). Maitai will apparently complain about not getting Vanderdoes for hereafter regardless if it has any relevance to the topic of the thread.
I'm not sure why all of the malcontents follow recruiting if it is only going to be a source of annoyance and disappointment. I follow it because it is enjoyable and an introduction to the possible members of the future team, not because it causes stress or dissatisfaction.
Because if we don't offer they don't come. If we weren't recruiting on the East Coast, we would not have Lord Wogan coming in next year...
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