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Eddie Vanderdoes commits to SC...I'm gonna puke

  • Duck_Your_Luck said...

    Did I say USC doesn't develop there players?? NO. I said Oregon's coaches are superior at developing their players and getting the most out of their talent. There is a reason Oregon has won the Pac-12 the past 3 years despite other schools having higher rated recruits. It's simple logic.

    BTW, you keep saying we were leading, when EV even said he was only really considering USC and LSU and that us and PSU were only intriguing. You're just using untrue statements

    RE: EV, I was going by everything that was reported by the contributors (not putting this on them, this is recruiting, after all) on this board for the last 6 months. If you don't trust the Mods, why do you pay to come here?

    We're going to be fine. I trust the coaching staff and think, top to bottom, it's as good as any in the country. But to say we're vastly superior to SC in game planning and player development just isn't true.

    This post was edited by pdxshogun on 7/12/2012 at 12:49 PM

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  • This post was edited by mcmcc1 on 7/12/2012 at 12:52 PM

    "Release Me Cuhhhhhhhh"

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  • Duck_Your_Luck said...

    No, you're whining because you're babies. You guys whine and moan every time a kid goes somewhere else. USC?? A Southern California, rich, famous, connected, greatly located, and filled with hot girls university with a long tradition get's higher rated recruits, well duh. I'm an Oregon fan 100%, born and raised in Oregon, but their amazing recruiting doesn't worry me.

    1. Oregon's coaches are vastly superior in player development.
    2. Oregon's coaches are vastly superior in game-planning and scheming
    3. Oregon's coaches are still landing Top-25 recruiting classes year after year.

    Who cares who USC gets. Location and legend is what a bunch of these guys want, and that's something that is harder for us to offer, but our coaches are better at getting every drop of talent out of our recruits. This "pattern" of recruiting is nothing new. You particular babies will whine for the next 5 months until all of a sudden, we have a Top-20 recruiting class because Chip landed some top-tier recruits that were previously committed elsewhere. You particular few that whine the most make the rest of us Oregon fans look bad. Grow a pair.

    Thank you

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  • Bowerz101 said...

    Bahahahaha....you guys are depressing. Pretty sure things are never etched in stone on July 12th. Lets step away from the ledge...

    Hahaha. People are acting like Oregon just started the season 0-4 or had a best friend die. Grow up. This is recruiting and is supposed to bring a little extra fun and excitement to your life but should not define your life. For that matter neither should wins or losses. Football is fun but pull yourselves together.

    "Release Me Cuhhhhhhhh"

    mcmcc1

  • DuckInTheDesert said...

    I'm not saying Chip called that game perfectly. Hell no. That was never the argument.

    This was about the statement "SC has figured out Oregon's offense" which is complete bull. You are arguing two separate points.

    I don't think they have figured out our defense, but I think they will be even better this year and Monte will have had another ear of working it out. 3 true freshmen starters at LB and they are fast...they will only get much better.

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  • 97duck said...

    I don't think they have figured out our defense, but I think they will be even better this year and Monte will have had another ear of working it out. 3 true freshmen starters at LB and they are fast...they will only get much better.

    At this point we are getting into something completely off topic. They might be better. Fact is SC is SC. I personally will take Chip vs Monte in that battle everytime, until Monte proves me wrong. That's all.

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  • mcmccoydx said...

    Hahaha. People are acting like Oregon just started the season 0-4 or had a best friend die. Grow up. This is recruiting and is supposed to bring a little extra fun and excitement to your life but should not define your life. For that matter neither should wins or losses. Football is fun but pull yourselves together.

    Wait, are you telling me that cutting myself over recruiting is going overboard?!?!?

    I'm completely devastated/grieving/in bereavement/lost my best friend/got a divorce right now.

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  • Look we're all fans here, so really there's only one thing, the most rational thing, we can do... And that's to set aside our petty differences and bombard EV's twitter feed with death threats and bible verse from Leviticus. If I've learned anything from aTm we can all do a lot more to support the Ducks.

    brem22

  • brem22 said...

    Look we're all fans here, so really there's only one thing, the most rational thing, we can do... And that's to set aside our petty differences and bombard EV's twitter feed with death threats and bible verse from Leviticus. If I've learned anything from aTm we can all do a lot more to support the Ducks.

    Hahahaha.

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  • This is awful news, but signing day is a LONG ways away. Most of these kids have no clue what they want even after signing day comes and goes. Trashing USC on the field of play will put a huge doubt into some of these kids before February comes around.

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  • DuckInTheDesert said...

    Wait, are you telling me that cutting myself over recruiting is going overboard?!?!?

    I'm completely devastated/grieving/in bereavement/lost my best friend/got a divorce right now.

    Hahaha. In my real life I just had my best friend die and I feel like I'm doing way better than some people on this board are over losing a commit. I love SC and don't mind that he went there but I like posting here because, 1. I really like Oregon football and 2. I generally like this boards attitude but this self pity has got to go.

    Football doesn't define you unless you are a football player or a coach. Your friends, family, work ethic, what size you're packing down there (jk), etc. define you. If your main source of pride in your life comes from where a 17 yr old recruit goes then you need some serious help.

    "Release Me Cuhhhhhhhh"

    mcmcc1

  • DuckInTheDesert said...

    First, Go compare the "star ratings " of SC's defense vs our offense last year. There is absolutely no reason that it should have been that close in the first place if we are going strictly off talent.

    Second, minus 2 fumbles on what looked like scoring drives, that 35 could have been 49 really easily.

    Point being, SC hasn't figured out shit with Oregon's offense.

    USC has not completely figured it out, but geting closer and closer. Its natural right? Just like you will figure us out. Teams play each other every year, you figure out their schemes and tendencies. I hope you don't think that Oregon can run the spread for ever and have no one figure it out. That goes against football logic: everything gets figured out, then teams adjust. That's the beauty of the game and what helps football evolve. 10 years ago, no spreads in the Pac. Now, u, RichRod and AZ, even WSU /Leach and their air raid attack are implementing spread concepts. The adjustment? Smaller, faster LBs - safety type guys that can play in space. More Ds will adjust, and then the CK's and RR's of the world will adjust again. Thats football baby-
    As for 2010, that got nasty-we got kicked in the dick, no doubt. Last year, it was better, we won, but still not great. You put too much on stars and ratings tho. We may have higher rated players, but we are also paper thin. We can have, say, 20 5 star players on our team. But if the team only has e.g 60 something players that can play (and then injuries etc to those guys), and Oregon has some 4* guys and majority 3* guys but got depth at every position (to absorb injuries etc), guess what, Oregon will have a greater chance of winning the game. 1st half would be close, then stamina comes in in the second half, favoring the depper team (even with alleged lower rated players). No players at D1 level are so far apart by the star rating to easily make up for a difference in the number of people you have on a team. In other words, 3*-5*, there is a difference, but it aint THAT damn big, especially when u have numbers on ur team. Usually, the team with greater depth and great coaching - wins. Now, if you got great depth, AND all those 5*, 4* kids, the other team may be in trouble! And by the way, who are you kidding? You act like u got bums on ur team, as if you are the Idaho Vandals or something. You have high rated players on ur team who had offers from USC, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. Ur classes are always in the top 20-25 in the various site rankings.

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  • SC Trojan, Esq. said...

    USC has not completely figured it out, but geting closer and closer. Its natural right? Just like you will figure us out. Teams play each other every year, you figure out their schemes and tendencies. I hope you don't think that Oregon can run the spread for ever and have no one figure it out. That goes against football logic: everything gets figured out, then teams adjust. That's the beauty of the game and what helps football evolve. 10 years ago, no spreads in the Pac. Now, u, RichRod and AZ, even WSU /Leach and their air raid attack are implementing spread concepts. The adjustment? Smaller, faster LBs - safety type guys that can play in space. More Ds will adjust, and then the CK's and RR's of the world will adjust again. Thats football baby-
    As for 2010, that got nasty-we got kicked in the dick, no doubt. Last year, it was better, we won, but still not great. You put too much on stars and ratings tho. We may have higher rated players, but we are also paper thin. We can have, say, 20 5 star players on our team. But if the team only has e.g 60 something players that can play (and then injuries etc to those guys), and Oregon has some 4* guys and majority 3* guys but got depth at every position (to absorb injuries etc), guess what, Oregon will have a greater chance of winning the game. 1st half would be close, then stamina comes in in the second half, favoring the depper team (even with alleged lower rated players). No players at D1 level are so far apart by the star rating to easily make up for a difference in the number of people you have on a team. In other words, 3*-5*, there is a difference, but it aint THAT damn big, especially when u have numbers on ur team. Usually, the team with greater depth and great coaching - wins. Now, if you got great depth, AND all those 5*, 4* kids, the other team may be in trouble! And by the way, who are you kidding? You act like u got bums on ur team, as if you are the Idaho Vandals or something. You have high rated players on ur team who had offers from USC, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. Ur classes are always in the top 20-25 in the various site rankings.

    Solid post.

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  • LehmMachine said...

    I'm not as worried about DBs because Oregon always pulls in good ones. Elite DL are a completely different story and our DL has been the #1 problem against the "big boys". Granted, landing a couple of those DBs would be nice. I'm dreading the day I see Redfield Hargreaves and Willis all commit to SC.

    This new tweet from Hargreaves today probably won't help either-

    VH3 just tweeted "Walking around the airport in Colorado in my #Trojan shirt and keep getting "Fight on" from random people !!!"

    :pimpstrut

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  • DuckInTheDesert said...
    17-year-old kids making choices. If this causes "grieving" in your life you should probably find something else to do.

    Nailed it!

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  • DuckInTheDesert said...

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    I follow recruiting pretty heavily but in the end it is what it is. 17-year-old kids making choices. If this causes "grieving" in your life you should probably find something else to do.

    Easy for you to say. I have exactly three other things I can do: Even more meth, posting my favorite muffins and bathroom fixtures on pinterest, and maintaining my Creed fan blog.

    brem22

  • DaveV said...

    Cannot wait till November 3rd.

    me too Can't wait !!!!!! be careful what you ask for just saying,theres a whole lot of other games before then ,so we'll just take it one at a time peace

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  • I mean getting to the bag as in advancing up field just enough to disrupt the QB. Just looking at it in a realistic stand point. Cuz the Qb would have to scramble. BUT if he was facing Oregon we would love EV for the Qb to scramble lol. To Fast to be caught!!

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  • SC Trojan, Esq. said...

    USC has not completely figured it out, but geting closer and closer. Its natural right? Just like you will figure us out. Teams play each other every year, you figure out their schemes and tendencies. I hope you don't think that Oregon can run the spread for ever and have no one figure it out. That goes against football logic: everything gets figured out, then teams adjust. That's the beauty of the game and what helps football evolve. 10 years ago, no spreads in the Pac. Now, u, RichRod and AZ, even WSU /Leach and their air raid attack are implementing spread concepts. The adjustment? Smaller, faster LBs - safety type guys that can play in space. More Ds will adjust, and then the CK's and RR's of the world will adjust again. Thats football baby-
    As for 2010, that got nasty-we got kicked in the dick, no doubt. Last year, it was better, we won, but still not great. You put too much on stars and ratings tho. We may have higher rated players, but we are also paper thin. We can have, say, 20 5 star players on our team. But if the team only has e.g 60 something players that can play (and then injuries etc to those guys), and Oregon has some 4* guys and majority 3* guys but got depth at every position (to absorb injuries etc), guess what, Oregon will have a greater chance of winning the game. 1st half would be close, then stamina comes in in the second half, favoring the depper team (even with alleged lower rated players). No players at D1 level are so far apart by the star rating to easily make up for a difference in the number of people you have on a team. In other words, 3*-5*, there is a difference, but it aint THAT damn big, especially when u have numbers on ur team. Usually, the team with greater depth and great coaching - wins. Now, if you got great depth, AND all those 5*, 4* kids, the other team may be in trouble! And by the way, who are you kidding? You act like u got bums on ur team, as if you are the Idaho Vandals or something. You have high rated players on ur team who had offers from USC, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. Ur classes are always in the top 20-25 in the various site rankings.

    Quality post. I'll be respectful unlike when I come over to the FO247 boards. On my phone, so not sure if I'll get everything.

    1. Agree on the evolution and difference between star rankings.
    2. Problem with SC right now is limited scholarships and attrition. I don't need to explain this.
    3. Of course Oregon players aren't bums, but to say SC isn't playing with a stacked hand is ridiculous.

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