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  • did anyone read this article yet about how former Oregon players are unhappy how Oregon is making profits off of them in Oregon's new auction site

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/18827144/former-oregon-players-unhappy-with-way-school-profits-off-memorabilia

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    heckteck

  • This isn't about mad ex-UO players, it's about the NCAA allowing this to happen. Nate Costa tweeted out the same thing I just said earlier today. Weird how the guy says other schools have done it before but since it's such a slow news day, let's make "news" by saying ex-UO players are mad at Oregon for selling surplus jerseys and stuff where the money goes back to the AD. Sheesh.

    aberoyce1

  • aberoyce1 said...

    This isn't about mad ex-UO players, it's about the NCAA allowing this to happen. Nate Costa tweeted out the same thing I just said earlier today. Weird how the guy says other schools have done it before but since it's such a slow news day, let's make "news" by saying ex-UO players are mad at Oregon for selling surplus jerseys and stuff where the money goes back to the AD. Sheesh.

    yeah i don't see why the NCAA won't allow player to keep their jerseys, i'm pretty sure the players earned it to at least keep their jerseys

    heckteck

  • Players do have a chance to keep their jerseys but they have to purchase them. I bought one of Cam Colvin's jerseys personally from him in 2008.

    cstam

  • They're more annoyed than straight up angry, and if the players can keep every jersey it's an unfair advantage for teams like oregon who have multiple jersey combonations, the ncaa rule is fair but the auction site is bull, if you want to sellgame used jersey's don't do it in an auction setting, just have a flat rate with first come first serve, like at the surplus sale. and put the proceeds into the general scholarship fund or something instead of just going into the "athletic department budget" because that could be going into somebodies pocket just as easily as going into something that helps the student athletes.

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    crazy1

  • IMO players should be entitled to compensation for using their likeness and it's just to protect university's non-profit status that they aren't. The reality is the system will continue to protect itself as long as possible. But at least once a player graduates, they should at least be able to profit at that point.

    SouthOfTheBorderDuck

  • I'm sorry but i'm on social security disability, my wife works full time and we are still paying on our daughters student loans from 2003 . If you get a degree then you have a greater earnings future and if you didn't then its your own fault.
    But i can still understand a little bit how they feel.

    This post was edited by oregonboy57 on 4/26/2012 at 2:24 AM

    oregonboy57

  • If the players aren't getting a cut, the money should be going entirely to charity.

    But that's just me.

    MoneyBeGreen

  • babyWho cares!!!!

    Gooseduck

  • This is a slap in the face to players.

    With tens of millions of dollars passing through the AD each year, trading a degree that nearly 60% of young people in the pacific region of the U.S. already have is hardly a fair deal. A degree doesn't pack nearly the earning power it did once, not when the market is flooded with overpriced B.A. and B.S.; and every high school grad keeps lining up to get one. We have 10 middle managers right out of college looking for jobs and only one positon middle manager to fill.

    The money in college football is too big to accept a watered-down degree as a fair exchange. The pac-12 did just sign a 3 billion 10 year TV contract and expects another billion over 10 years from the Pac-12 network cable/Sat deals.

    It is only fair that the players should be allowed to keep their gear, then sell it once their elibility is up. Then at least a guy like LMJ can capitalize on his start power and get a fraction of the millions he has earned for the university. As an alum and Oregon business owner it is hard to see the players get so obvoiusly taken advantage of financially in a Capitalistic country like ours. There needs to be a pension or something for these guys, especially considering the injuries and future health impliications from playing football at this level.

    I realize this really a NCAA matter, but come-on; they will never hand over a small percentage of the billions they get each year to the players in any form, on their own. Calling for the NCAA to do something is just not understanding the monetary dynamics of College Football in its present state.

    N8theGrate

  • I think the auctions should all go to charity of the player's choice. A giving program back to the community. Or it sets up a scholarship fund... there are all kinds of good these sales can do.

    Instead, as it stands, its a major violation for an individual to solicit an autograph and sell it (like they did at Ohio State), whereas it's fine for the university to profit. Sign your rights away for 4 years on the dotted line...

    I'm sure Oregon isn't the only program doing this...

    USC is like a german car, every piece that breaks is of the highest quality.

    AvroDuck

  • Enough whining already by players. You got the OPPORTUNITY to play college football, get to the NFL, and receive a degree ALL FOR FREE!!!
    If they aren't exactly sure how much that's worth I can show them just what the education costs are not to mention the increased earnings potential from having a degree. They received EXACTLY what they agreed to when they signed their financial aid contract.

    DuckedUp

  • I agree with the auctions going to charity. The line between the university making money off the product that they put on the field and their likeness is a fine one, but it should exist.

    As for the university not being able to give the jerseys to the players after their career is over because it's unfair that some teams have more combinations, why not let the players have three jerseys or something? Put a limit on it. Such a huge part of some of these kids lives, not being able to take it with them because they can't afford it is insane to me.

    wig

  • I think the article says they can keep 3. We talk about the free education, but what about the 4 years of top level coaching to prepare them for their pro careers? They are getting coaching, facilities, trainers, etc. that only the rich could afford on their own. That is one part that is way overlooked - how many kids with degrees are doing internships to try to get the experience they will need to get a job. I seriously doubt if 60% of young people in the PNW have degrees..

    duckdeb

  • N8theGrate said...

    This is a slap in the face to players.

    With tens of millions of dollars passing through the AD each year, trading a degree that nearly 60% of young people in the pacific region of the U.S. already have is hardly a fair deal. A degree doesn't pack nearly the earning power it did once, not when the market is flooded with overpriced B.A. and B.S.; and every high school grad keeps lining up to get one. We have 10 middle managers right out of college looking for jobs and only one positon middle manager to fill.

    The money in college football is too big to accept a watered-down degree as a fair exchange. The pac-12 did just sign a 3 billion 10 year TV contract and expects another billion over 10 years from the Pac-12 network cable/Sat deals.

    It is only fair that the players should be allowed to keep their gear, then sell it once their elibility is up. Then at least a guy like LMJ can capitalize on his start power and get a fraction of the millions he has earned for the university. As an alum and Oregon business owner it is hard to see the players get so obvoiusly taken advantage of financially in a Capitalistic country like ours. There needs to be a pension or something for these guys, especially considering the injuries and future health impliications from playing football at this level.

    I realize this really a NCAA matter, but come-on; they will never hand over a small percentage of the billions they get each year to the players in any form, on their own. Calling for the NCAA to do something is just not understanding the monetary dynamics of College Football in its present state.

    First off, Oregon is one of the few schools in the nation that has a self sustaining sports budget, meaning they generate enough revenue to cover their expenses. Yes, college football makes money (lots), but it is how most universities cover the expense of the non revenue generating sports. Secondly, the scholarship atheletes do get paid by not having to pay for college. Depending on the University that could be upwards of $150,000 over four years. I'm 33 and still paying my education loans off. Lastly, the University is a non profit (kind of like a charity), so the money they generate off this equipment is going to a good cause. It's not like Rob Mullens is diving into his safe of gold coins like scrooge McDuck, from exploiting poor college atheletes. That money pays for baseball maintenance crews, lacrosse travel expenses, electric bills etc.,etc.,etc.
    Are some of the NCAA restrictions on player benefits ridiculous? Absolutely, but don't give me the sob story that atheletes are exploited and are due more coin than they are already given

    Duckwad

  • Duckwad said...

    First off, Oregon is one of the few schools in the nation that has a self sustaining sports budget, meaning they generate enough revenue to cover their expenses. Yes, college football makes money (lots), but it is how most universities cover the expense of the non revenue generating sports. Secondly, the scholarship atheletes do get paid by not having to pay for college. Depending on the University that could be upwards of $150,000 over four years. I'm 33 and still paying my education loans off. Lastly, the University is a non profit (kind of like a charity), so the money they generate off this equipment is going to a good cause. It's not like Rob Mullens is diving into his safe of gold coins like scrooge McDuck, from exploiting poor college atheletes. That money pays for baseball maintenance crews, lacrosse travel expenses, electric bills etc.,etc.,etc. Are some of the NCAA restrictions on player benefits ridiculous? Absolutely, but don't give me the sob story that atheletes are exploited and are due more coin than they are already given

    Everybody already knows what you pointed out, that is all basic stuff. I'm not sure you understood my point...

    That is with all the NEW $$$ coming in i.e. the estimated 4 billion over 10 years to the 12 conference teams, it is time to look at something more than just a free education. That was great 20 years ago, and more than fair, but the landscape of college football has changed dramatically. The SEC will be redoing their TV deals next year, and you know the the Presidents want a much bigger deal than the Pac-12 got...and down the line. The money is approaching professional levels.

    My suggestion was giving players a pension after their elgibility is up.

    The amount could be based on production, injuries, and so forth. I don't think the schools themselves should be responsible for pension payments, but instead the NCAA, which generates hundreds of millions each year. Only revenue generating sports athletes would be eligible to receive pensions. Something along those lines.

    Once the new TV deal kicks in, there will not be a single team in the league with negative revenue. How do you think WSU can afford to pay its FB coach 2.5M? This whole thing is a deal changer, and it is going to change the landscape of college athletics. I just think the players should get thrown a tiny chuck of the upcoming windfall, and for me a pension paid by the NCAA is the best option I've heard.

    N8theGrate

  • No it is not! They are student athletes.

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    L Perry

  • N8theGrate said...

    Everybody already knows what you pointed out, that is all basic stuff. I'm not sure you understood my point...

    That is with all the NEW $$$ coming in i.e. the estimated 4 billion over 10 years to the 12 conference teams, it is time to look at something more than just a free education. That was great 20 years ago, and more than fair, but the landscape of college football has changed dramatically. The SEC will be redoing their TV deals next year, and you know the the Presidents want a much bigger deal than the Pac-12 got...and down the line. The money is approaching professional levels.

    My suggestion was giving players a pension after their elgibility is up.

    The amount could be based on production, injuries, and so forth. I don't think the schools themselves should be responsible for pension payments, but instead the NCAA, which generates hundreds of millions each year. Only revenue generating sports athletes would be eligible to receive pensions. Something along those lines.

    Once the new TV deal kicks in, there will not be a single team in the league with negative revenue. How do you think WSU can afford to pay its FB coach 2.5M? This whole thing is a deal changer, and it is going to change the landscape of college athletics. I just think the players should get thrown a tiny chuck of the upcoming windfall, and for me a pension paid by the NCAA is the best option I've heard.

    I understood your point just fine. Everyone knows that there is an influx in revenue do to new TV deals. That is basic stuff. The system in place is still largely fair. The student atheletes make the equivalent of $30,000-$50,000 a year for playing football, all while getting the best possible coaching to further them toward their dream careers. The pension plan is in place, it's called a college education with no debt. While it is bummer that Curtis White had to retire from football, he will still receive a college education and walk away from school without any debt. Not to mention, that the original point of this thread was about Oregon selling old player gear, not an ill hashed plan to provide 22 yr olds with a pension plan?

    Duckwad

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