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Expect Oregon to drag out a decision at QB

  • Expect Oregon to drag out a decision at QB | National Football Post

    The Ducks have two capable signal-callers competing for the starting job.

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    Defeat doesn't finish a man - quit does. A man is not finished when he's defeated. He's finished when he quits. - Richard Nixon

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  • Yeah they will through the first game to keep BB from transferring. I've been saying it all along.

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    Green Yellow31439

  • Green & Yellow said...

    Yeah they will through the first game to keep BB from transferring. I've been saying it all along.

    I think your reasoning for, why, is completely off the mark!

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    L Perry

  • I dont think BB or Mariota would transfer this year or maybe even next year. Its hard to stay healthy in college football and either may have an opportunity to take the helm near term

    breezed

  • L. Perry said...

    I think your reasoning for, why, is completely off the mark!

    I'm not so sure that it is, to be fair. BB has very publicly flirted with the thought of transferring. Clearly, he doesn't want to be the b/u and clearly he's got concerns that he will not win the job.

    If BB we're to leave, Oregon's depth and experience in the system, not to mention he's got the only real game experience, would take a major hit. It's not at all unusual to play out competition until just after the season starts to ensure your depth for the season. It happens.

    I'm not saying that if BB plays great that he will not win the job. I'm sure Chip will play the QB he believes will give the team the best chance to win. BUT, BB clearly saw some writing on the wall, or he wouldn't have gone on record the way he did. All the talk of not announcing a starter until the first game and possibly laying 2 Qbs smacks of CK giving BB a carrot to chase.

    ... So, you're telling me there's a chance....

    This post was edited by GoGreen on 8/9/2012 at 12:43 PM

    GoGreen

  • Really, so your saying that when they named Darron over Nate the week before the 10-11 season opener they were also keeping them from transfering? I think not! They are using the fullest extent of the practices to determine who will best serve as the starter.

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    L Perry

  • Nate was in no danger of transferring. I'm not saying that this is why CK is waiting, but this is new area for CK & the Ducks.

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    BigHarv1944

  • Hmm, second true QB race in 3 seasons. So how is it a "new area for CK & the Ducks"?

    This post was edited by L Perry on 8/9/2012 at 1:53 PM

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    L Perry

  • There may be some truth to the idea that CK and staff will delay the decision until the first couple games of the season. If they are using this strategy specifically to keep BB from transferring I'll be incredibly disappointed in the staff. BB has 5 total years on a CFB roster. His rFR year is gone. His 2nd year is gone. If he transfers he will have to sit out unless he drops down a level. Our staff would really be screwing his future opportunities by holding him in limbo ONLY in the hopes of negating an immediate transfer. If he is truly even with MM at the end of camp so be it. Otherwise, let him make the best decision for himself. Our staff should be looking out for the best interest of our team while also doing what is best for the young men who are the individual parts of said team. They should not be looking out for the best interests of the team while taking advantage of a young man who trusts them to do best by him as well.

    EDIT: I have faith they will do right by all parties btw and not just manipulate our young men.

    This post was edited by 97duck on 8/9/2012 at 2:07 PM

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  • L. Perry said...

    I think your reasoning for, why, is completely off the mark!

    Yeah sorry g and y perry is right...nothin to do with transferring this is how chip rolls. Doesn't want anyone to sit back he wants fall camp to be hell month

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  • When did this happen ? Please share..

    rebduck

  • rebduck said...

    When did this happen ? Please share..

    .....Article at the top of the page?

    Back in Quack

  • Regardless of who wins the job, the other QB will not transfer IMO.

    WTD1

  • 97duck said...

    There may be some truth to the idea that CK and staff will delay the decision until the first couple games of the season. If they are using this strategy specifically to keep BB from transferring I'll be incredibly disappointed in the staff. BB has 5 total years on a CFB roster. His rFR year is gone. His 2nd year is gone. If he transfers he will have to sit out unless he drops down a level. Our staff would really be screwing his future opportunities by holding him in limbo ONLY in the hopes of negating an immediate transfer. If he is truly even with MM at the end of camp so be it. Otherwise, let him make the best decision for himself. Our staff should be looking out for the best interest of our team while also doing what is best for the young men who are the individual parts of said team. They should not be looking out for the best interests of the team while taking advantage of a young man who trusts them to do best by him as well.

    EDIT: I have faith they will do right by all parties btw and not just manipulate our young men.

    I don't think anyone is saying that's the only reason, but it's extremely naive to think this might not be in play. It happens. This is big boy football and you bet the coaches are looking out for the program. It's funny that Duck fans think Oregon is always above board and never think the coaches or this program would ever sink so low as to operate the way big time college football programs do. I would've thought the whole WIllie Lyles fiasco would've cured some of you folks from that sort of thinking.

    I'm sure the coaches will give BB every opportunity to compete for an win the job, but considering BB's own statements an thinly disguised attitude about his chances, I don;t think it's much of a stretch to think not announcing a starter until game 1 and the talk of a 2 QB system has an at least partially duplicitous reason.

    GoGreen

  • Right, duplicitous. Such as when I take a dump and wipe my a__ with TP I am secretly supporting the worker at the paper mill. When in fact I was just taking a dump!!

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    L Perry

  • GoGreen said...

    I don't think anyone is saying that's the only reason, but it's extremely naive to think this might not be in play. It happens. This is big boy football and you bet the coaches are looking out for the program. It's funny that Duck fans think Oregon is always above board and never think the coaches or this program would ever sink so low as to operate the way big time college football programs do. I would've thought the whole WIllie Lyles fiasco would've cured some of you folks from that sort of thinking.

    I'm sure the coaches will give BB every opportunity to compete for an win the job, but considering BB's own statements an thinly disguised attitude about his chances, I don;t think it's much of a stretch to think not announcing a starter until game 1 and the talk of a 2 QB system has an at least partially duplicitous reason.

    It's not that I always think they are above board...rather I always WANT them to be above board. 2 very different things. Of course all these big programs have ulterior motives and less than best intentions/tactics but I guess how dare I hope my program attempts to operate above board! headslap

    This post was edited by 97duck on 8/9/2012 at 3:46 PM

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  • 97duck said...

    It's not that I always think they are above board...rather I always WANT them to be above board. 2 very different things. Of course all these big programs have ulterior motives and less than best intentions/tactics but I guess how dare I hope my program attempts to operate above board! headslap

    It's a two way street bro. How about BB looking out for the program who has been paying for his school and given him the opportunity to compete for the starting roll in the best offense in the country for his skill set. How about him not bailing and leaving us one injury from a 9/10 win season, instead of national championship hopes during this rare window of opportunity. Our staff has been more than accommodating to players who have wanted to transfer. That being said, having a solid backup QB this season is more than important, it's essential, and it would be much more unfair to the team as a whole to allow him to walk, than it is to BB to not allow it. There are 85 other players on the team, plus coaches, donors etc. BB isn't the only person in the program. Don't act like he'd somehow be getting the shaft.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Green Yellow31439 on 8/9/2012 at 4:12 PM

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  • GoGreen said...

    ....BB has very publicly flirted with the thought of transferring.......

    where was this posted?

    breezed

  • L. Perry said...

    Right, duplicitous. Such as when I take a dump and wipe my a__ with TP I am secretly supporting the worker at the paper mill. When in fact I was just taking a dump!!

    What if said paper mill worker was your spouse or roommate and keeping him/her in a job was in your best interest, because they help pay the bills?

    Keeping BB around is in the best interest of the Oregon football program. The rumblings that MM was the best QB Oregon had on the roster started last Fall. Then he badly outplayed BB in Spring. Then a relative of BB is on an Oregon board posting that if he doesn't win the job, he will transfer. Then, just a few weeks ago, BB was tweeting about transferring. Then all of a sudden it's a QB competition to come down to the 1st game AND could be a 2 QB system...

    What changed and why?

    GoGreen

  • breezed said...

    where was this posted?

    His own Twitter.

    GoGreen

  • GoGreen said...

    His own Twitter.

    No it wasn't...he posted something about being upset. Could have been about a girlfriend, car breaking down, hemmorhoids, crabs, you name it...nothing in his twitter account has referenced Oregon football and transferring and no way is there any evidence to support your claim outside of the posting of his aunt.

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  • GoGreen said...

    His own Twitter.

    Really, care to show us?!

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    L Perry

  • 97duck said...

    No it wasn't...he posted something about being upset. Could have been about a girlfriend, car breaking down, hemmorhoids, crabs, you name it...nothing in his twitter account has referenced Oregon football and transferring and no way is there any evidence to support your claim outside of the posting of his aunt.

    LOL! Very naive.

    I'm done with the topic. You folks see it how you want to see it...

    GoGreen

  • Green & Yellow said...

    It's a two way street bro. How about BB looking out for the program who has been paying for his school and given him the opportunity to compete for the starting roll in the best offense in the country for his skill set. How about him not bailing and leaving us one injury from a 9/10 win season, instead of national championship hopes during this rare window of opportunity. Our staff has been more than accommodating to players who have wanted to transfer. That being said, having a solid backup QB this season is more than important, it's essential, and it would be much more unfair to the team as a whole to allow him to walk, than it is to BB to not allow it. There are 85 other players on the team, plus coaches, donors etc. BB isn't the only person in the program. Don't act like he'd somehow be getting the shaft.

    BB's responsibility to the program begins and ends with working his hardest to be successful. Is Sumler letting the team down? Did Roper let the team down when he saw the writing on the wall? Should I go on in regards to transfers? High shook juvenile kids leave their parents to join a school and football program. One of the biggest concerns when making that decision is whether or not the coaches/school will help be surrogate "leaders" almost parents for their kids. CK as a coach has a responsibility to be honest and fair with BB. He carries a greater burden and responsibility in making sure he does best by BB while being successful as a football coach. Maybe being honest is telling BB that he has a better chance to be successful as a backup at UO than transferring, but that is not CK's decision to make. What your suggesting may benefit our team as a whole, but it is selfish and dishonest. Is this business a usual in CFB? I would have a difficult time arguing that it is not, but that doesn't mean I have to accept it is the right way to go about business. I guess we will agree to disagree.

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    97duck

  • GoGreen said...

    What if said paper mill worker was your spouse or roommate and keeping him/her in a job was in your best interest, because they help pay the bills?

    Keeping BB around is in the best interest of the Oregon football program. The rumblings that MM was the best QB Oregon had on the roster started last Fall. Then he badly outplayed BB in Spring. Then a relative of BB is on an Oregon board posting that if he doesn't win the job, he will transfer. Then, just a few weeks ago, BB was tweeting about transferring. Then all of a sudden it's a QB competition to come down to the 1st game AND could be a 2 QB system...

    What changed and why?

    It doesn't matter that anyone I know works there, I will ALWAYS buy TP to wipe my a__!

    As to your assertion that his relative (aunt) said he would transfer, you are wrong. She said she would advise him to transfer, her words, not his.

    97duck covered the 'on his twitter' misconception.

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    L Perry