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  • with all the complaining about missing on the OL recruits, we just landed one of the deepest and most talented DL classes I can remember.

    Armstead, Buckner and Balducci were elite.

    Daniel and Carriger are raw athletes ready to molded.

    Bair is a legacy.

    We had a major haul on OL last year people. We do great with JUCO olinemen. We can fill the gap if there is any.

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    bisonducks

  • bisonducks said...

    with all the complaining about missing on the OL recruits, we just landed one of the deepest and most talented DL classes I can remember.

    Armstead, Buckner and Balducci were elite.

    Daniel and Carriger are raw athletes ready to molded.

    Bair is a legacy.

    We had a major haul on OL last year people. We do great with JUCO olinemen. We can fill the gap if there is any.

    I don't think you understand...

    21 commits is terrific and all but this is CLEARLY not a day to celebrate!

    It's very obvious for those of us who can see through the UO Athletic Dept. *SPIN*, that once great recruiter Steve Greatwood has caught Coach Azzinaro's inability to recruit. CLEARLY this is spreading and it's only a matter of time until the whole staff is infected with the virus. Then we're doomed.

    After that? Who knows. Could spread to the Basketball team... Track... Not even Nike is safe!!!

    Don't you understand bisonducks! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!

    :)

    glazeduck

  • It sure does seem that for some people if they aren't complaining...THEY DIE!

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    BigHarv1944

  • So, you guys don't think the fans should be able to critique the class? You don't think people can be pleased but also see that it's not perfect?

    Come on.

    I will never understand people who refuse to question their leaders.

    As for me, I am very happy with this class and excited to see what these kids bring to the field in the springtime.

    Natty_Dread

  • Natty_Dread said...

    So, you guys don't think the fans should be able to critique the class? You don't think people can be pleased but also see that it's not perfect?

    Come on.

    I will never understand people who refuse to question their leaders.

    As for me, I am very happy with this class and excited to see what these kids bring to the field in the springtime.

    Nope, critiquing, pointing out where things could be better, etc. is always fine in my book. But SOME (perhaps not you) posters are acting as though the sky is falling because we didn't sign Stanford's OL class...

    It's recruiting - you win some, you lose some, my point was that it's completely unfair to make grandiose statements about the big picture while viewing situations through microscopes.

    glazeduck

  • Natty_Dread said...

    So, you guys don't think the fans should be able to critique the class? You don't think people can be pleased but also see that it's not perfect?

    Come on.

    I will never understand people who refuse to question their leaders.

    As for me, I am very happy with this class and excited to see what these kids bring to the field in the springtime.

    Why cant people see that the Ducks have a plan in recruiting?

    When you sign 5+ recruits (counting Stevens) in the previous year, and only lose 2 scholarship players, it makes no logical sense to sign another 4 to 5 recruits to the same position in the same year.

    So what did the Ducks do? They attempted to reach out to 5* kids and ending striking out. Guess what? So did every other position group aside from DLine (Armstead). They werent looking to sign a huge class just 2, maybe 3 guys. They were very selective in who they recruited.

    They only reason the Ducks have loaded up on WR in the last 2 years is because of huge attrition rate and overall lack of talent.

    Im not saying dont be critical, just be informed.

    And dont be surprised when next years DLine group isnt very large. cyclops

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  • BigHarv1944 said...

    It sure does seem that for some people if they aren't complaining...THEY DIE!

    I think your post could've been better.

    Fodder

  • All acccording to Rivals Position Rankings

    DE #3 class
    QB #4 class
    RB #32 class
    WR #12 class
    TE #2 class
    LB #37 class
    DB #28 Class

    I would say we did pretty damn good!

    This post was edited by Duck Nasty on 2/1/2012 at 7:53 PM

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  • Natty_Dread said...

    So, you guys don't think the fans should be able to critique the class? You don't think people can be pleased but also see that it's not perfect?

    Come on.

    I will never understand people who refuse to question their leaders.

    As for me, I am very happy with this class and excited to see what these kids bring to the field in the springtime.

    This isn't politics. It's football.

    If you want to critique the class, critique away. But if people disagree with you, deal with it.

    MoneyBeGreen

  • Im Kris Hanson said...

    Why cant people see that the Ducks have a plan in recruiting?

    When you sign 5+ recruits (counting Stevens) in the previous year, and only lose 2 scholarship players, it makes no logical sense to sign another 4 to 5 recruits to the same position in the same year.

    So what did the Ducks do? They attempted to reach out to 5* kids and ending striking out. Guess what? So did every other position group aside from DLine (Armstead). They werent looking to sign a huge class just 2, maybe 3 guys. They were very selective in who they recruited.

    They only reason the Ducks have loaded up on WR in the last 2 years is because of huge attrition rate and overall lack of talent.

    Im not saying dont be critical, just be informed.

    And dont be surprised when next years DLine group isnt very large. cyclops

    There are 2 sides to this. #1 the sky is not falling and yes, we had a great OL class last year.

    However it is a fact that Oregon offered close to 2 dozen OL and came away with 1 player who can play 1 year. It's obvious it was a position at which the coaches wanted to bring in some more talent and they were in large part unable to do that. Saying that last year's OL class was big and good is valid, but the coaches obviously disagree that it was enough(obviously it's never enough in this game) because they handed out 20++ offers to OL this year. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out, and saying that this isn't a bit of a disappointment is spin.

    Now back to #1, while it's valid to "complain" about missing out on some OL this year, it certainly doesn't make this class any less awesome. This program is absolutely LOADED with talent on both sides of the ball.

    Caravaggio

  • Frankly, I would love to see a pick up game of basketball with the guys from the incoming FB class and the basketball team. There is some talent there. I think we will see that strength, conditioning, and technique work will make these guys outstanding on either the OL or DL. Make Addison the point guard.

    All kidding aside, do you think some OL kids don't want to work as hard as our guys do? It is challenging playing for Chip.

    debtfree9

  • debtfree9 said...

    Frankly, I would love to see a pick up game of basketball with the guys from the incoming FB class and the basketball team. There is some talent there. I think we will see that strength, conditioning, and technique work will make these guys outstanding on either the OL or DL. Make Addison the point guard.

    All kidding aside, do you think some OL kids don't want to work as hard as our guys do? It is challenging playing for Chip.

    I think it's a certainty that we have lost interest in high profile recruits or had them lose interest in us because of our style of practice and play. Some guys just hate to run!

    Caravaggio

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  • Duck Nasty said...

    All acccording to Rivals Position Rankings

    DE #3 class QB #4 class RB #32 class WR #12 class TE #2 class LB #37 class DB #28 Class

    I would say we did pretty damn good!

    #15 in the country by the pundits, average of the 4, is pretty damn good!

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    L Perry

  • L. Perry said...

    #15 in the country by the pundits, average of the 4, is pretty damn good!

    Not to mention that Marshall is far better than the no. 32 RB

    "Release Me Cuhhhhhhhh"

    mcmcc1

  • If only we signed Darnell Bradley. Shame we missed on him.

    welch7421

  • If you look around at a number of other boards on the 247 Network you will see many of the same complaints. It is human nature to complain when things don't go perfectly, and people have difficulty being content and realizing how good it currently is.

    Our staff continues to add more talent to our team each recruiting season, and this class is continuing that trend.

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  • Duck Nasty said...

    All acccording to Rivals Position Rankings

    DE #3 class
    QB #4 class
    RB #32 class
    WR #12 class
    TE #2 class
    LB #37 class
    DB #28 Class

    I would say we did pretty damn good!

    Who had a better TE class than us?

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    crazy1

  • crazy1 said...

    Who had a better TE class than us?

    Florida
    They signed Kent Taylor (#1 TE - according to Rivals) and Colin Thompson (#6 TE)

    We had Brown (#3 TE) and Baylis (#9 TE). No other teams aside from us and Florida signed two 4-Star TE's.

    EastBayDucks

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  • glazeduck said...

    I don't think you understand...

    21 commits is terrific and all but this is CLEARLY not a day to celebrate!

    It's very obvious for those of us who can see through the UO Athletic Dept. *SPIN*, that once great recruiter Steve Greatwood has caught Coach Azzinaro's inability to recruit. CLEARLY this is spreading and it's only a matter of time until the whole staff is infected with the virus. Then we're doomed.

    After that? Who knows. Could spread to the Basketball team... Track... Not even Nike is safe!!!

    Don't you understand bisonducks! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!

    :)

    So is this supposed to be sarcastic or are you serious? This is a great class, especially for the Ducks being in Eugene. So are you saying you can do better? I think the quality of the recruiting class has gone up every year. We recruit players that fit our style. I am sure there are some great athletes that the Ducks don't consider because of "other" issues.

    duckdeb

  • Caravaggio said...

    There are 2 sides to this. #1 the sky is not falling and yes, we had a great OL class last year.

    However it is a fact that Oregon offered close to 2 dozen OL and came away with 1 player who can play 1 year. It's obvious it was a position at which the coaches wanted to bring in some more talent and they were in large part unable to do that. Saying that last year's OL class was big and good is valid, but the coaches obviously disagree that it was enough(obviously it's never enough in this game) because they handed out 20++ offers to OL this year. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out, and saying that this isn't a bit of a disappointment is spin.

    Now back to #1, while it's valid to "complain" about missing out on some OL this year, it certainly doesn't make this class any less awesome. This program is absolutely LOADED with talent on both sides of the ball.

    Wish I would have copied the article that fully discussed the OL issue. Our offense is not made for the 5 star OL linemen that are big and slow. They don't work and if that is how they are built, they are not interested in Oregon. We will never get those huge OL linemen (usually the 5*) because they can't (and don't want to) move downfield and block. They don't fit the system...

    This is just like someone complaining that a school doesn't sign any good WR when their offense is totally a running offense and built around a QB that can't throw. Ot a RB signing with a team that throws all the time.

    These kids are smart enough to go with a system that fits their style of play and our staff is smart enough to identify "raw talent" and mold players. According to Chip, we could probably field a competitive basketball team with the recruits. How many big OL guys can play basketball. It is all about choosing kids that will fit into the system... I bet a lot of the 5* OL kids would absolutely die under teh conditioning that oregon expects.

    duckdeb

  • Natty_Dread said...

    So, you guys don't think the fans should be able to critique the class? You don't think people can be pleased but also see that it's not perfect?

    Come on.

    I will never understand people who refuse to question their leaders.

    As for me, I am very happy with this class and excited to see what these kids bring to the field in the springtime.

    I am a firm believer that people need to stand on their own 2 feet and make their own informed opinion.....I can't stand those who can't make decisions themselves..i.e...the "group think" type or as some would call them "sheep" who feel they have to always be inline with the herd. On the other hand just because you are an individual thinker doesn't mean that you can't agree with the group if thats your desire to do so. We seem to have a larger than normal portion of 'whiners" or "complainers" if you will on this site than I am used too. Kind of goes with my high strung comment of a couple days ago. Take your meds people.

    AngryDuck22