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Tell me one coach who is 100% in recruiting!
Our % is favorable with the top schools. How many kids are looking around after committing elsewhere(USC anyone)? Lets just enjoy the ride until 2/6/13 and start complaining the day after if necessary.

Asdf: Was it the "looking for quality recruits..." that set you off binky? You need to take a couple of deep breath's and gather yourself. Why would it surprise you that Chip and coach Great have a certain type of O/L athlete they are looking to sign i.e. Fisher, Johnson? That topic has been all over this board for months. Ducks will still pull in a top 20 class after all is said and done. Sounds like you have given up on them signing any more quality O/L. Hope your day gets better for you.

I love both of those kids and so did coach G and Chip and stop banging your head against the brick wall that's what crazy people do. Try deep breathing. In the final day's to the finish line things going to get crazier and crazier. That's why we luv it. LOL!

I agree that asdf needs to calm down a bit... I mean, football is a circus, not a serious endeavor.

But I don't think things are as rosy in the coaches' meetings as you seem to think. Asdf was right when he said everybody was looking for a big haul at OL this year after whiffing on everybody last year. They didn't land a single HS OL last year at a position of need. That's a big miss. So everyone's talking about how this is the year.

Well, apparently it's a theme and not a one off. OL recruiting is an issue at Oregon there's no way around that.

Yes, asdf has probably given up on the coaches signing another couple quality recruits at OL. Most people here expect that to happen, including Matt, Chris and Justin (not trying to put words in anyone's mouth here). There's only a couple guys left on the board and they're all long shots.

Natty
Never said things are peachy and rosey with coaches. Coach G is a grizzled pro at this game. ASDF off the hook ranting and raging about our coaches. It's not over till it's over and yes time is short but I still believe our guy's are still in it for some O/L's and we have a decent chance of signing one or two of them. The board seems to be split over this diversive issue this year. Mod's seem to think still in it for some of them. Nerves getting frayed. No need to jump off a cliff or bad mouth the best coaching staff in PAC-12. All need to settle down and wait and see how things turn out.

As far as offensive line recruiting goes, to be honest I expect usto perpetually struggle in this area. I think our 2011 class will be the exception, not the rule. I believe a lot of the other schools are banging on us at every opportunity about the system we run, the pace of play, how it doesnt translate to the pro game, yada, yada, ya. I don't think you can do that with tight ends, RBs, or QB's, and since we seem to hold blocking in such utterly high regard we seem to have a different idea than most when it comes to WR. Defensively we are a very attacking defense, and other than DT its hard to really say youre at a disadvantage coming to Oregon for defense when we blitz and play ahead as much as we do. I just think those two positions (defensive tackle, and offensive line) lend themselves to legit questions about our scheme and how well it suits te average lineman. Either way I think its fair to concede we will need to approach things differently for 2014, because I don't think anyone can look you in the face who knows anything about recruiting or the Ducks and say we've managed this class to the best of our ability.

You'll get no argument from me if you say asdf is bananas.

I agree it's not over til it's over, but the mods are not confident that the coaches will land another OL as you say. If you read their report, there is not one quality OL that they have any confidence will choose Oregon.

It's pretty clear that recruiting OL is a elephantine weakness for the Oregon staff. Spin that however you want, but I don't think many on this board could disagree with that statement.

Count me amongst those that believe, that based on what I see with three weeks to go, we are getting our behinds whipped on the recruiting trail this year. We have several great recruits: Tyner, Dontre, the Robinson twins, Mundt, Seisay, Carrington, Mattingly, .......but we are not getting the numbers we should be.

Since the Robinson twins in SEPTEMBER, we have had only one high-profile commit (Mattingly), lost an even higher profile commit at a position of great need (Redmond), and had to finesse keeping an even higher profile commit (Tyner) from de-committing and exploring his options. AS noted, we lost our true prize at OL (Redmond) and do not have a viable DT recruit anywhere in sight. We have recently whiffed on seemingly 12-15 high profile recruits at various positions where the staff believed we had at least pretty good chances....snake eyes. The probable reasons for the lack of numerical success to this point are varied and likely inter-related

1) Too few offers and started too late. I believe that we should have had another 15-20 offers out 3-4 months ago and we would like have another 2-4 commits. Whether a resource, process, philosophical or other issue, you have to cast a wider net if you want to land the fish. Kids committed earlier this year.....the staff did not make any apparent "half time adjustments"

2) The "Chip to the NFL" saga. Though short-lived, it stunted whatever momentum that we were building to that point

3) The NCAA mess. While I do not believe this is a large problem.....it cannot be helping; plays into negative recruiting which leads to......

4) Negative recruiting.....see (2) and (3) above. We have several master recruiters in this conference........Tosh, Kiffin, Mora. etc. They play the game......if we are to believe what we read our coaching staff does not. I am not saying that we should, but when there are unresolved matters floating out there it makes us an easy target. Instead of negative recruiting, there is a certain amount of "arrogance" regarding our message -- it is a privilege to suit up for UO. It is a privilege, but the same goes for Stanford and many other good programs. I am sure this message works well with some, not so well with others.

Do I think we are going to get another 5-6 high profile (at least ***-star recruits)? I really do not think so. Can we weather one class of 16-17 recruits including 2-3 projects and not take a step back? Yes, the roster is currently loaded except at RB, ILB and OL and we have addressed the first very well, I think we will be OK at ILB but we still need 1-2 more OL recruits for depth. However, we must address DL, OL and LB significantly and often in the 2014 class or we will be taking a step back in 2-3 years. The staff needs to look at what happened this year and adapt....I am preetty confident they will. But unfortunately and unless I am greatly mistaken, it is too late to except any miracles with this class.

Talking about recruiting...didn't Chip have an in home with Falah today???

Big +1 to you DuxFlav23. I could not have put it better myself!

The panic button is right next to me. Should I push it?

Your point is well taken, I think.

But anyone can cherry pick 2* that have gone on to play in the NFL.

I think most Duck fans on this board have a healthy respect for the coaches' ability to evaluate talent. The 2007 team did well, but if you remember, they did not actually play in the Nattie, or even win the Pac 10 Championship. In fact, the finished middle of the pack (no pun intended haha). Why? They didn't have quality depth. If your team is filled with projects and a few true talents, like that one was, then you can make a run of it. But a smaller percentage of those guys are going to develop to be 4* type players. It's just a fact. If recruiting were to return to early 2000s levels we would see a major drop off in this team. They might get to a big game once every three or four years, sure, but perennial top 5 is a pipe dream with a roster full of 2*s.

Keep in mind that a 'good class' means filling needs, no matter what rating it gets from star gazers.