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Mystery Dlinemen...

  • I was thinking this mystery Dlinemen everyone's so concerned with could possibly Tommy Schutt.Did he get a visit when the coach went to visit Brown?I know it was the TE coach,but perhaps Schutt got payed a visit as well.By the way,I just signed up here because I was dick of only reading 10% of the posts.I was a Eugene resident for fourteen years,but just moved back to my hometown of Baltimore,Md.Love having Haloti and Dixon wearing purple and black.Love having Oregon and the Ravens as my two favorite football teams.Can't go wrong.Anyway,any thoughts on Schutt?

    KeepOnDucking

  • Btw mind the cell spelling.Ugh...nightmares!!!

    KeepOnDucking

  • Well first, Welcome to DT Keep-On-Ducking!
    Secondly, I believe the 'mystery dlineman' is a figment of somone putting one and one together and getting three, then running with it. biggrin

    This post was edited by L Perry on 12/9/2011 at 5:04 PM

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    L Perry

  • L. Perry said...

    Well first, Welcome to DT Keep-On-Ducking! Secondly, I believe the 'mystery dlineman' is a figment of somone putting one and one together and getting three, then running with it. biggrin

    Hello and Welcome! Jhop has not denied that there is a silent and hasn't said anything recently regarding McCarthy... pray

    This post was edited by JRAVI on 12/9/2011 at 5:10 PM

    JRAVI

  • L. Perry said...

    Well first, Welcome to DT Keep-On-Ducking! Secondly, I believe the 'mystery dlineman' is a figment of somone putting one and one together and getting three, then running with it. biggrin

    not quite sure how you can come to this conclusion...

    All you really need to know is the statement that Faith made about us being full at DT...

    We weren't previously, now we are... What else is there? It's that simple.

    Beyond that, Justin has acknowledged it.

    glazeduck

  • glazeduck said...

    not quite sure how you can come to this conclusion...

    All you really need to know is the statement that Faith made about us being full at DT...

    We weren't previously, now we are... What else is there? It's that simple.

    Beyond that, Justin has acknowledged it.

    Also, if Faith was turned away, why is Buckner visiting? Is Buckner the commit? Isn't he a DE? Aren't we full at that spot? Full enough that we would turn away a DT with 4*'s.

    I don't understand this at all.

    brownvsop

  • Welcome to the board!

    deleriuzwun

  • brownvsop said...

    Also, if Faith was turned away, why is Buckner visiting? Is Buckner the commit? Isn't he a DE? Aren't we full at that spot? Full enough that we would turn away a DT with 4*'s.

    I don't understand this at all.

    As I see it, we were recruiting Faith as a Nose Tackle (think big Wade and Ricky), several of our DEs are essentially 5 techniques (Terrell Turner's position), several will be drop/rush ends (Brandon Hanna/Dion Jordan position), Cottrell's moving to inside LB, and Daniel is more of an athlete that could potentially swing to TE to provide flexibility...

    Each of these positions is being recruited for differently with different PSAs, so when Faith said "they're full at DL", my take is what he (we?) meant was that we were full at the position we were recruiting him for (DT/NT)

    glazeduck

  • glazeduck said...

    not quite sure how you can come to this conclusion...

    All you really need to know is the statement that Faith made about us being full at DT...

    We weren't previously, now we are... What else is there? It's that simple.

    Beyond that, Justin has acknowledged it.

    Justin has not acknowledged a silent commit and has been toying with you guys. People are over reacting to what Faith said.

    wig

  • wig said...

    Justin has not acknowledged a silent commit and has been toying with you guys. People are over reacting to what Faith said.

    Be nice if justin would just say he's toying with us. Doesn't seem to hard to do.

    Quack Mamba6

  • wig said...

    Justin has not acknowledged a silent commit and has been toying with you guys. People are over reacting to what Faith said.

    I beg to differ.

    He has confirmed that Faith's comments were not about Buckner or Armstead. By answering the question he's acknowledging the situation, which is confirmation that it exists without expressly saying so. This is not the matrix, there is a spoon, Justin just won't tell us any details about the spoon.

    I don't see how this is THAT hard to misconstrue?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by glazeduck on 12/9/2011 at 5:39 PM

    glazeduck

  • In the end, I just hope we are all excited about having a great class with some beef on the lines.

    brownvsop

  • glazeduck said...

    I beg to differ.

    He has confirmed that Faith's comments were not about Buckner or Armstead. By answering the question he's acknowledging the situation, which is confirmation that it exists without expressly saying so. This is not the matrix, there is a spoon, Justin just won't tell us any details about the spoon.

    I don't see how this is THAT hard to misconstrue?

    Just my opinion after reading what has been said. I'm almost positive there is no silent commit.

    wig

  • wig said...

    Just my opinion after reading what has been said. I'm almost positive there is no silent commit.

    While you're certainly entitled to your opinion, I just don't understand how you came to it.

    -Twice now Justin has responded in the other thread by acknowledging "it" (the rumored silent, or - at worst - Faith's comment about us being full) wasn't about Armstead or Buckner. Justin isn't referring to nothing.

    -We're still in need of a young guy in the middle. Balducci committed long enough ago that there's no way he plays a factor here, and we very clearly continued to recruit Ekakatie after his commitment. Teams don't recruit a guy with his talent (at a position of need no less), on the other side of the country for a whole year, just to lie to him right before he makes his decision.

    -Seems we had room for him when he visited, now we don't, and in the interim, have had no one commit that remotely could be considered a candidate for DT. The easiest conclusion, to me, is that someone took that spot.

    glazeduck

  • Its entirely possible that Jhop doesn't have any specific information. Fact seems to be that Faith was told we're filled up. Who knows what that means but if we don't end up with something special I'm going to be disappointed turned him away. He is right though, he has answered questions that would make it seem he know something which is a change from the silent commit denial a little while ago.

    JTinKC

  • Without going back and looking at specific comments, I believe that previously Justin pretty much shot down all comments about a silent commit. However, in the past few days or so this seems to have changed. And he has not done anything to shoot down general speculation and in fact seems to be refuting speculation on specific recruits (AA for example), but not on some others. This is while making comments like, "I'm sorry but in due time I can post what I'd like to post." Sooo...either he is just having screwing with us, or there is more to the story.

    Bairdy

  • A silent commit isn't a commitment at all. There's a reason it has to be kept secret and the reason usually has to do with the fact that other options are still being explored.

    How would your wife have reacted if, when the preacher asked you to say "I do" instead you kept mum?

    What if your first serious girlfriend refused to meet any of your friends and, when asked if you were her boyfriend, just sat there and fidgeted?

    This whole speculation is fun but a lot like trying to figure out who is going to go to the prom with you before anyone's been asked.

    johnch

  • Does anyone actually know anything? Wild speculation is great, but I would like to know what are the top "position" priorities and when we think we'll hear something.

    JHop... can you PLEASE break down some of the moving pieces.

    DC_DUCK

  • Keep-On-Ducking said...

    I was thinking this mystery Dlinemen everyone's so concerned with could possibly Tommy Schutt.Did he get a visit when the coach went to visit Brown?I know it was the TE coach,but perhaps Schutt got payed a visit as well.By the way,I just signed up here because I was dick of only reading 10% of the posts.I was a Eugene resident for fourteen years,but just moved back to my hometown of Baltimore,Md.Love having Haloti and Dixon wearing purple and black.Love having Oregon and the Ravens as my two favorite football teams.Can't go wrong.Anyway,any thoughts on Schutt?

    I haven't taken the time to look it up yet, but my Ohio State crazed friend told me Schutt was visiting tOSU this weekend and rumors on their subscription boards (which he is a member of) are that he will commit.

    I have no idea how true that is and really don't care as I don't think we are being considered by Schutt (but I would love it he was considering us).

    CharlotteDuck

  • I responded to this topic in the warp speed marathon thread.

    1. McCarthy, Buckner & Armstead are not silents. Not just because Justin said they weren't, it's just common knowledge.
    2. Just because Faith said what he did doesn't mean we have someone committed. Coaches do tell recruits stuff like that. It could mean several different things
    3. Yes, Justin has dropped some hints, but they are fuzzy enough where jumping to any hard & fast conclusions is only warranted for those deciphering what they want to.
    4. Most feel CK & his staff really don't deal in "silents" like MB would occasionally do. Doesn't mean there absolutely couldn't be one, but very unlikely.
    5. My bet, if indeed there is a DL out there, is it's either a player who's currently committed elsewhere and he wants his interest in Oregon kept quiet or it's a lesser known player that our coaches like a lot and he's let them known his interest is very high.

    duck81

  • DC_DUCK said...

    Does anyone actually know anything? Wild speculation is great, but I would like to know what are the top "position" priorities and when we think we'll hear something.

    JHop... can you PLEASE break down some of the moving pieces.

    A fun game of speculation but I am reminded of the parable of the Seven Hindu Blindmen each at a different postion of an elephant trying to describe the entire beast.

    sheldonduck66

  • Discussing silent commits is like inhaling before lighting up...just doesn't make sense.
    When commits become audible I'll be happy to sober up and discuss.

    OregonReignWet126340

  • Silent but deadly.

    johnch

  • Ok, im sure Justin is laughing his balls off at all of our mystery defensive player wondering..... BUT give the laughs a break and say yes if there is a silent or no there isn't. Thanks man, appreciate it

    Quack Mamba6

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